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[acracing55]

350cc Pro Moto-cross Engine Kit:

 

The following listed set-up is a guideline of what Patriot Racing would recommend using for a Banshee MX set-up.

 

 

 

Pipes:

 

Patriot Racing recommends Paul Turner mid range pipes for our MX motors. The Paul Turner pipes with our set-up has excellent low end power- a very strong midrange, but a smooth hit onto the pipe- providing for greater control and power tractability.

 

Carbs:

 

28mm Keihin PWKs. Easy and precise to tune, these carbs are ideal. By keeping the carb diameter smaller, the intake velocity and fuel atomization is much greater.

 

Reed cages:

 

We've found that V-Force reed cages with the Pro Design V-Force compatible intakes with the built in boost bottle works superbly for our MX set-up. The W style V-Force reed cage has smaller inlet passages which in turn creates for greater intake velocity. This intake velocity is crucial to good throttle response and sub peak power.

 

Cylinder head:

 

Aftermarket billet head with compression ratio to suit octane level. A wide squish band to provide for good low end torque. The stock cylinder head can be modified as well- the head is decked and the squish band is re-cut.

 

Ignition timing:

 

At a minimum the stock stator mounting plate must be modified to provide for at least 4 degrees of timing advance. The ability of the motor after cylinder porting alterations and the pipes fitted allow for a greater peak RPM- this higher peak does not suit the stock timing curve. We recommend 4 degrees advance for pump gas motors and 6 degrees for race fuel motors.

 

Cylinder porting alterations:

 

A MX engine is probably the most difficult to do correctly and net the desired results. A MX engine needs smooth tractable power, it also often requires good straight-line speed. Port velocity is essential in a good MX set-up. A fine balance must be struck between porting alterations that provide good power- but meanwhile retain good velocity for throttle response and crisp power. We spend a tremendous amount of time in correcting the transfer port angles and flow which then nets a consider boost of mid range power. The intake is reshaped- but not enlarged- to retain good velocity and fuel atomization. The exhaust port duration is crucial in ensuring the motor is able to pull sufficient RPM, but not too high that it creates a shorter power stroke and sub peak power falls off.

 

 

 

Package Pricing 1,795.00

 

Cylinder porting alterations-

 

-Modify and reshape intake and boost port -Modify and reshape exhaust

-Modify and reshape transfers -Polish exhaust

-Modify sleeve -Modify piston where applicable

-Clean casting flaws and contour within transfer updrafts

 

 

 

28mm Flat slide carb kit with cables: V-Force reed cages:

Crankshaft True and Welding: Billet timing plate:

Wiseco Piston kit w/ bearings: Cylinder boring:

Aftermarket billet head with domes and o-ring kit: Gasket and seal kit:

 

Is it worth the money?

 

It says modify and reshape exhaust does that mean it comes w/ an exhaust of your pick?

[frocashmoney24]

sounds like a hellva deal, im not sure abou the pipes thou

[fixitrod]

Reshape the exhaust is one of the things done while porting. Doesn't look like the kit comes with the pipes though. Most people have pipes when the start getting serious so that may be why they aren't in the package. Looks like everything else is though. Carb, reeds, everything but pipes.

[raxen]

Those pipes suck all around, alot of mx run 2-1 pipe setups.

[Blue Duece]

350cc Pro Moto-cross Engine Kit:

 

The following listed set-up is a guideline of what Patriot Racing would recommend using for a Banshee MX set-up.

 

 

 

Pipes:

 

  Patriot Racing recommends Paul Turner mid range pipes for our MX motors.  The Paul Turner pipes with our set-up has excellent low end power- a very strong midrange, but a smooth hit onto the pipe- providing for greater control and power tractability. 

 

Carbs: 

 

  28mm Keihin PWKs.  Easy and precise to tune, these carbs are ideal.  By keeping the carb diameter smaller, the intake velocity and fuel atomization is much greater.

 

Reed cages:

 

  We've found that V-Force reed cages with the Pro Design V-Force compatible intakes with the built in boost bottle works superbly for our MX set-up.  The W style V-Force reed cage has smaller inlet passages which in turn creates for greater intake velocity.  This intake velocity is crucial to good throttle response and sub peak power.

 

Cylinder head:

 

  Aftermarket billet head with compression ratio to suit octane level.  A wide squish band to provide for good low end torque.  The stock cylinder head can be modified as well- the head is decked and the squish band is re-cut.

 

Ignition timing:

 

  At a minimum the stock stator mounting plate must be modified to provide for at least 4 degrees of timing advance.  The ability of the motor after cylinder porting alterations and the pipes fitted allow for a greater peak RPM- this higher peak does not suit the stock timing curve.  We recommend 4 degrees advance for pump gas motors and 6 degrees for race fuel motors.

 

Cylinder porting alterations:

 

  A MX engine is probably the most difficult to do correctly and net the desired results.  A MX engine needs smooth tractable power, it also often requires good straight-line speed.  Port velocity is essential in a good MX set-up.  A fine balance must be struck between porting alterations that provide good power- but meanwhile retain good velocity for throttle response and crisp power.  We spend a tremendous amount of time in correcting the transfer port angles and flow which then nets a consider boost of mid range power.  The intake is reshaped- but not enlarged- to retain good velocity and fuel atomization.  The exhaust port duration is crucial in ensuring the motor is able to pull sufficient RPM, but not too high that it creates a shorter power stroke and sub peak power falls off. 

 

 

 

Package Pricing 1,795.00

 

Cylinder porting alterations- 

   

-Modify and reshape intake and boost port -Modify and reshape exhaust

-Modify and reshape transfers -Polish exhaust

-Modify sleeve -Modify piston where applicable

-Clean casting flaws and contour within transfer updrafts 

 

 

 

28mm Flat slide carb kit with cables:  V-Force reed cages: 

Crankshaft True and Welding:  Billet timing plate: 

Wiseco Piston kit w/ bearings:  Cylinder boring: 

Aftermarket billet head with domes and o-ring kit:  Gasket and seal kit:

 

Is it worth the money?

 

It says modify and reshape exhaust does that mean it comes w/ an exhaust of your pick?

i think the only way thats worth it is if......the pipes, crank, pistons, reeds, head, carbs, intake and timing plate are included in the price, sounds like your standard 60+ HP port to me.....in other words 400 bucks to port it.....