Anyone Cryo their trans?

[mhoksch]

I got the hint that it was more expensive than that.

I hadn't heard about this sort of treatment until recently

I seem to have read you have to pay for the rem finish per /oz? The finish they put on the gears and pieces is to make them hold oil better.

Also - plan ahead. Don't get a crank cryo-remed and then welded and trued

 

I would ask this dude too on this forum - sign up and pm him.

He gets all his transmission components cryo-remed

http://www.allthingsmoto.com/forums/f-235/cr500-engine-build-pictorial-part-2-a-50724/

http://www.allthingsmoto.com/forums/f-235/92-01-cr250-engine-build-45990/

http://www.allthingsmoto.com/forums/f-235/1993-honda-cr250-build-finally-finished-49621-p3/

I think we're talking about a different thing.  I'm only doing the cryogenic strengthening part. 

[trickedcarbine]

Typically the cost is high due to the price of liquid N2. So if you are already paying for a run of stuff just squeeze your personal stuff in. Might as well do some pistons as well if they are out.

[KozyHeat]

Yeah your right.

They seem to work together well though. Cryo and its friend Rem isf process.

Cryo removes the stress on the component and the rem leaves the piece finish coated having similar properties that the cryo has and smoothing the piece out.

 

If you have the option - go for it. Though according to one of their websites - only four locations in the usa provide Cryo and REM process.

[trickedcarbine]

Any body ever heard of the ISO Blue?

[sheerider11]

So I went to that 300below.com is this some sort of cylinder plating as well? The way one guy talks about checking cylinder wear, piston wear, ring wear. That leads me to believe its some sort of plating. Some one correct me if I'm wrong or explain what they mean.

[camatv]

cryo trans  not really a big benifit if you ask me.

 

i have a WCR "duneable" that was cryo treated.  it shit forks faster than any other override i have ever had (  but there is a reason for that i am sure)

 

if you can get it done for beer money..  hell  do the entire engine.

[trickedcarbine]

 

So I went to that 300below.com is this some sort of cylinder plating as well? The way one guy talks about checking cylinder wear, piston wear, ring wear. That leads me to believe its some sort of plating. Some one correct me if I'm wrong or explain what they mean.

No, it's not a plating. It is a thermal tempering. They slowly take the part from room temp to -320 degrees and slowly bring it back to temp and they do that cycle a 2/3 times depending on the company or application. It makes the metal harder, and I have noticed it prolongs surface wear. It also allows for tighter clearances.

[sheerider11]

 

No, it's not a plating. It is a thermal tempering. They slowly take the part from room temp to -320 degrees and slowly bring it back to temp and they do that cycle a 2/3 times depending on the company or application. It makes the metal harder, and I have noticed it prolongs surface wear. It also allows for tighter clearances.

so what did this guy cryo to have these statements? If I cryo my cylinders and pistons they will last longer?

[trickedcarbine]

Granted its tuned right, yes.

Some say that you won't notice. However I have seen it work in many industrial applications and racing. I know many machinists that say it lengthens tool life as well as keeping sharper edge longer so there is less down time to refurbish tooling. The punch press where my old man used to work also uses cryoed parts for extended life. Local diesel mechanic swears he's getting an extra 10/15 thousand miles on the brakes of a dump truck be services exclusively. It helps keep accuracy longer in Full auto fire arms that are shot repeatedly. I personally notice it in the way my clutch springs stay more consistant in ice racing. I actually did a spring swap test recently. Both spring sets from driveline, same weight. Ran the first set Un cryoed and feathering the clutch out of the turn I could get maybe 15 laps before the spring pressure faded and let the lever go limp. Now with cryoed springs I can run the same way for almost 30 laps before I get fade. The list goes on and on. Lotta big time racers use the process, and I have seen it work so If I can afford it I do it

[trickedcarbine]

cryo trans not really a big benifit if you ask me.

 

i have a WCR "duneable" that was cryo treated. it shit forks faster than any other override i have ever had ( but there is a reason for that i am sure)

 

if you can get it done for beer money.. hell do the entire engine.

WCR... Hmmm. Well I can assure you the Cryo isn't the reason you were going through forks.