bansh_88 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) I am installing new Keihin 33mm PWK carburetors with brand new stock fuel lines and wondering if the way I have to route the fuel lines will cause issues. Due to the larger physical size of these 33mm carburetor, the fuel lines have to be routed in a manner in which the larger of the two fuel lines travels slightly upwards over the carburetor after where it connects to the metal "T" connector. I cannot route it any other way than for it to travel slightly upwards to clear the larger size of the carburetor and then back downwards to the tube it slides over on the carburetor. So my question is, if one fuel line (the larger one) is routed slightly upwards after the metal "T" connector, will this cause issues with fuel not flowing correctly into my carburetor? If not, I guess maybe I can try to find larger fuel lines that will let me cut them to custom sizes allowing them to travel downwards, but for right now I am wondering if I can get the stock fuel lines to work for now with my PWK 33mm carbs. Is there a special kit of fuel lines that is commonly used for larger than stock carburetors? Or will this be ok with the stock fuel lines? Thanks guys. Edited May 13, 2012 by bansh_88 Quote
BigRed350x Posted May 13, 2012 Report Posted May 13, 2012 I am installing new Keihin 33mm PWK carburetors with brand new stock fuel lines and wondering if the way I have to route the fuel lines will cause issues. Due to the larger physical size of these 33mm carburetor, the fuel lines have to be routed in a manner in which the larger of the two fuel lines travels slightly upwards over the carburetor after where it connects to the metal "T" connector. I cannot route it any other way than for it to travel slightly upwards to clear the larger size of the carburetor and then back downwards to the tube it slides over on the carburetor. So my question is, if one fuel line (the larger one) is routed slightly upwards after the metal "T" connector, will this cause issues with fuel not flowing correctly into my carburetor? If not, I guess maybe I can try to find larger fuel lines that will let me cut them to custom sizes allowing them to travel downwards, but for right now I am wondering if I can get the stock fuel lines to work for now with my PWK 33mm carbs. Is there a special kit of fuel lines that is commonly used for larger than stock carburetors? Or will this be ok with the stock fuel lines? Thanks guys. Ditch the "T" and get a pingle. Keep in mind that you have the hydro-static force of the fuel in the tank pushing downward. As long as you have fuel in your tank and your lines are lower than the tank, it will push the fuel up-hill and over a hump in the fuel line. Your carb bowls are vented and your tank is vented, and your tank is higher than your carb bowls... Quote
bansh_88 Posted May 13, 2012 Author Report Posted May 13, 2012 Ditch the "T" and get a pingle. Keep in mind that you have the hydro-static force of the fuel in the tank pushing downward. As long as you have fuel in your tank and your lines are lower than the tank, it will push the fuel up-hill and over a hump in the fuel line. Your carb bowls are vented and your tank is vented, and your tank is higher than your carb bowls... Thanks BigRed350x. So a carb fuel line with a slight uphill travel should be good then. Thats great news, thanks. I never heard of a pingle before and just did some searching on it after reading your reply. I guess a pingle is recommended due to its increase in fuel flow? It claims to flow twice as much as the stock "T" connector from what I read so far. Do you know if the stock "T" connector flows an adequate amount of fuel for 33mm carbs to feed an engine that has a .010 overbore on the cylinders and an MX port job? I am hoping that I can get by with the stock "T" for right now until I get a pingle. Do you think that I can get by with the stock "T" for now or should I not risk it? Also, I notice that a pingle is quite an expensive unit! The manufacturer of this connector must be VERY excited with this connector to say the least! So far, $90 is the lowest price that I see for one. So could I get by with the stock setup for now or is it too risky to attempt? Thanks!! Quote
BigRed350x Posted May 13, 2012 Report Posted May 13, 2012 Thanks BigRed350x. So a carb fuel line with a slight uphill travel should be good then. Thats great news, thanks. I never heard of a pingle before and just did some searching on it after reading your reply. I guess a pingle is recommended due to its increase in fuel flow? It claims to flow twice as much as the stock "T" connector from what I read so far. Do you know if the stock "T" connector flows an adequate amount of fuel for 33mm carbs to feed an engine that has a .010 overbore on the cylinders and an MX port job? I am hoping that I can get by with the stock "T" for right now until I get a pingle. Do you think that I can get by with the stock "T" for now or should I not risk it? Also, I notice that a pingle is quite an expensive unit! The manufacturer of this connector must be VERY excited with this connector to say the least! So far, $90 is the lowest price that I see for one. So could I get by with the stock setup for now or is it too risky to attempt? Thanks!! If you are running gas, you will probably be fine with the stock T connector and the stock fuel petcock. As long as you're not doing any loooong wide-open stuff you will probably be ok. - Jared Quote
bansh_88 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Posted May 14, 2012 If you are running gas, you will probably be fine with the stock T connector and the stock fuel petcock. As long as you're not doing any loooong wide-open stuff you will probably be ok. - Jared Yep, I'll be using regular gas in this quad. Thanks a lot BigRed350x, your help here is GREATLY appreciated! Quote
Coupelx Posted May 14, 2012 Report Posted May 14, 2012 mine runs slightly uphill too. i ride wfo all over. Quote
bansh_88 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) One more question... on the Pingle, does it bolt directly to the gas tank? I was initially under the impression that it went directly in place of where the stock "T" connector sat in between the carbs, but reading more into it now, it looks like it bolts to the gas tank. If this is where I have to mount it, then it looks like I will need to run all new fuel lines that would run from the Pingle down to each carb I am assuming. If so, does anyone have a link or OEM part number (or even aftermarket part#) for where I can order some long straight fuel lines to run from the Pingle down to each carb? THANKS!!!!! Edited May 14, 2012 by bansh_88 Quote
Larry's Shee Posted May 14, 2012 Report Posted May 14, 2012 http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=banshee+pingle&_sacat=43962&_dmpt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&_odkw=banshee&_osacat=43962&bkBtn=&_trksid=p4506.m270.l1313 http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=banshee+fuel+line&_sacat=43962&_dmpt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&_odkw=banshee&_osacat=43962&bkBtn=&_trksid=p4506.m270.l1313 Or you could check with site sponsers Quote
bansh_88 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=banshee+pingle&_sacat=43962&_dmpt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&_odkw=banshee&_osacat=43962&bkBtn=&_trksid=p4506.m270.l1313 http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=banshee+fuel+line&_sacat=43962&_dmpt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&_odkw=banshee&_osacat=43962&bkBtn=&_trksid=p4506.m270.l1313 Or you could check with site sponsers Thanks 'Larry's Shee'. I did them exact searches as you did in those links LOL. I always search Ebay first for everything! That $90 price on the Pingle is the best price I can find so far, and those fuel lines in your 2nd link are for the overflow on the carb I believe as they appear quite a bit narrower in diameter than the gas tank to carb fuel lines. Can I use the overflow lines in place of the gas tank lines? The gas tank lines are much thicker in diameter than the overflow lines so I am thinking that I shouldnt use them. I could be wrong though but I dont think they are what I need unless they can be substituted for the thicker black fuel lines that go from the tank to the carbs. Thanks Edited May 14, 2012 by bansh_88 Quote
vulvafan537240 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Posted May 14, 2012 fuel line is 1/4". the line in the ebay link is correct. Quote
bansh_88 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Posted May 14, 2012 fuel line is 1/4". the line in the ebay link is correct. Fantastic!! Thanks volfan537240. Quote
bansh_88 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Posted May 14, 2012 Thanks again everyone. I ordered the Pingle and the fuel lines. Until today, I never heard of a Pingle and would have never thought to buy one. Glad I know now. Bansheehq and its members here rock! Quote
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