Smokestack Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Anyone ever have one come out? I have searched and found nothing. But thats what happend to me. Looks like it came out and rode the piston on the side and left 2 deep grooves in the cylinder. Both rods where they mount to the crank are blue? Tons of play in them as well. Im guessing im totally screwed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowit Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Anyone ever have one come out? I have searched and found nothing. But thats what happend to me. Looks like it came out and rode the piston on the side and left 2 deep grooves in the cylinder. Both rods where they mount to the crank are blue? Tons of play in them as well. Im guessing im totally screwed Circlips coming out is very rare and usually due to improper installation. On the crank, you need to measure it to know what is going on. thrust washer clearance is key. grab a pic too. It is normal to see some discoloration in that area. That does not always mean the crank is done. You can also have it pressed back together, trued, and welded to stay together. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smokestack Posted May 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Its tuff to see in the pics. But that piston was missing the clip and has the marks down the side of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowit Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Its tuff to see in the pics. But that piston was missing the clip and has the marks down the side of it. Yeah, very hard to see in the pics but it looks like the bluing you are seeing is from the grinding of the rod end. If they do not deliver enough coolant or take too large of a bite with the grinder, you will get bluing at the surface. It sure looks like the crank should come out anyway to clean all that stuff out. That would be a better time for inspection. You need to think like a surgeon when working on it. It only takes one grain of sand to toast a crank.... I did not see where the crank looks to be separating but measuring will tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokestack Posted May 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Yeah its gotta come out. Only way i knew the piston was like that was i blew a crank seal on the tranny side. I was kinda shocked to see the cylinder and piston like that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Only experience similar was the pin droped into transfer port. There weren't any pieces large enough to determine what happened first. One thing I do know was that I reused the clip. Since then I have never reused pin clips. Piston crown was in one piece, below ring land was powder. BTW, this was a T-500 Suki , only two transfer ports, thats how pin could fall into port, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 (edited) This same thing happened to me, circlip for the wrist pin failed and the wristpin had been scraping the cylinder wall for who knows how long, cut about a .120" groove in it. Ran just fine like that, only found out when the other cylinder gernaded itself. Got it bored .100 over and its still running today. Edited May 16, 2010 by austin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokestack Posted May 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Im going to try and get video of the play but it seems like i have alot of play in the tranny. I mean where the clutch bolted too that rod. I can pull it out quite a bit and move it up and down just a little. Is this normal? Really sucks the more i tear it apart the more i need....and all this for a stupid crank seal. But im glad i found all the stuff i need before it really blew and cost alot more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokestack Posted May 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ6Dp5u6SMg There is the vid of the play in the shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD1026 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ6Dp5u6SMg There is the vid of the play in the shaft. i dont think thats normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokestack Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Thats what im afraid of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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