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[terminator-92]

Hello, Im 17 years old and finally have enough cash to buy a banshee. A banshee has been like a dream quad ever since I can remember but i have one small problem. My dad absolutely hates 2 stroke he thinks they are junk and do nothing but file plugs . But i have been reading on this site for about a year now and realize this is due to jetting, but is a 2 stoke THAT much more maintenance then a 4 stroke. I need some proof to prove to him a banshee is a good quad. Thanks

[dirtydownunder]

welcome to the HQ.

and its "foul" plugs .

geez your dad should know that some of the most reliable generators and tractors were 2 stroke's !.

there is less moving parts in a 2 stroke than a four, and four strokes always needs valve clearance adjustment.

provided you look after yo shit, ya 2stroker should last as long as it needs to, just make shaw you warm it up, maintain and jet is properly .

 

ive had plugs last 40 hours, i just change them because i think i should.

[VictorK]

you should tell him its proven to be extremely reliable when taken care of properly. just make sure you get one that's taken care of well and youll be off to a good start

[terminator-92]

Thanks for that fast reply but damn I cant believe I put "file". But plenty of my cousins owned 2 stroke but they did not keep up on maintenance and fouled plenty of plugs.My cousins friends had a banshee and told my dad they were "double trouble" having to tune carbs instead of just one, so im positive that didn't help. But I am going to show him this thread ; hopefully it will change his mind.

[terminator-92]

"you should tell him its proven to be extremely reliable when taken care of properly. just make sure you get one that's taken care of well and youll be off to a good start"

 

 

 

 

I was actually thinking about buying a beater and rebuilding it myself but have a little question. If i buy a new top end kit do i have to bore the cylinder? All i can find online is top end kits for bored cylinders.

[VictorK]

"you should tell him its proven to be extremely reliable when taken care of properly. just make sure you get one that's taken care of well and youll be off to a good start"

 

 

 

 

I was actually thinking about buying a beater and rebuilding it myself but have a little question. If i buy a new top end kit do i have to bore the cylinder? All i can find online is top end kits for bored cylinders.

If the cylinders are in decent shape you can have them honed and put new pistons that are the same size. If the cylinders are worn, you go up atleast one size in pistons and have the cylinders bored and honed. You better be careful buying a ""beater'' because you might end up with more problems then you want. Be sure the bike idles very well and the motor runs strong. Anything with a bolt around swimg arm, a arms, should be inspected, this will tell you how well it has been taken care of. Inspect the cases around the front sprocket.

[terminator-92]

Well unless I am positive they have rebuilt the engine correctly I will be rebuilding it to make sure i know the engine is not going to fail on me. And mostly everything else will change because I want to set it up form mx racing.

[Larry's Shee]

If you want to MX get an90 or newer with A arms not J arms.There is a good thread going right now about banshee reliabiliy. Most dirt bikes are jetted fat (rich) from the factory to lessen the posibility of burning a piston. As far as 2 stroke reliability I have a 72 Honda 250 Elsinore I bought new, have rode the snot out of it and have only put one set of rings in it . It's all about maintenance. BTW , welcome to BHQ !! You'll be better served buying a ready to ride 'shee not a fixxer upper . JMO, your results may vary.

[badjetman23]

welcome to HQ I am glad to see younger guys interested in doing there own work that is awsome but i agree find a shee that is ready to ride and is in good shape you will be better off then when it comes time you will feel better about spending some money to do power adders like pipes and stuff good luck hope you can get your dad to see the light all shee for me

[terminator-92]

hmm.I guess I will look for a shee thats in good running condition. The only thing I was worried about was the bottom end because I definitely dont want that to go out while im riding .And of course the top end grenading . How often does the bottom end need to be rebuilt.

[VictorK]

hmm.I guess I will look for a shee thats in good running condition. The only thing I was worried about was the bottom end because I definitely dont want that to go out while im riding .And of course the top end grenading . How often does the bottom end need to be rebuilt.

depending on the mods and how its treated and rode, it can last 15 years or a few months in bad cases. theres really no way to judge the crank without taking the top end off you just have to be sure the bike you buy seems taken care of and not beat on with no maintnance. If you buy a beater you might very well get a crank with bad bearings or in early seperation

[terminator-92]

Damn. I didn't think it lasted that long, thats very good to know.lol. I thought you had to rebuild them like every three years even with good maintinance. It makes me feel a hell of a whole lot better buying a nice quad now. Thanks for the info.