oil in engine case

[BOOZER2009]

A buddy of m ine sod me his 2001 shee with the top end froze up for $300. Got all my topend parts ready to install but noticed as I spin crank while pushing rod up and down. I have oil inside the lower case. Isn't it suppose to be dry down there? Is the trans in a seperate chamber with its own oil that may have leak into the engine case? Any thoughts? I haven't really checked it out real good. Going to do that tomorrow. I just wanted to ask so maybe if I have to split the case to repair something. I can get on it tomorrow. Thanks

[Screaming Yellow Zonker]

How much oil are you talking about?

It should not be completely dry but there should not be puddle in the crankcase either.

 

What color is the oil? if it is the same color as the trans oil than you have a problem

[BOOZER2009]

How much oil are you talking about?

It should not be completely dry but there should not be puddle in the crankcase either.

 

What color is the oil? if it is the same color as the trans oil than you have a problem

 

so what your saying is the only oil in there should just be whats coated on all the parts? when i rotate the rod you can see its bringing up some but not a lot. guess i'll have to dive into it tomorrow. trans oil leaking into the case seems pretty rare huh?

thanks for the help

[BOOZER2009]

How much oil are you talking about?

It should not be completely dry but there should not be puddle in the crankcase either.

 

What color is the oil? if it is the same color as the trans oil than you have a problem

AFTER GETING OUT IN THE DAYLIGHT IT WAS JUST COOLANT SPILLED IN THERE WHEN i BROKE IT DOWN. HAVEN'T WORKD ON A 2 STROKE IN A WHILE AND JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THE LOWER SITS DRY. GOT IT ALL HANDLED AND MY TOP END BACK ON THANKS FOR THE HELP

[bebetekbanshee358]

AFTER GETING OUT IN THE DAYLIGHT IT WAS JUST COOLANT SPILLED IN THERE WHEN i BROKE IT DOWN. HAVEN'T WORKD ON A 2 STROKE IN A WHILE AND JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THE LOWER SITS DRY. GOT IT ALL HANDLED AND MY TOP END BACK ON THANKS FOR THE HELP

 

WAIT... SO THERE SHOULD BE NO OIL WHERE THE CONNECTING ROD SITS??WERE ITS EXPOSED THAT PART OF THE MOTOR IS SEALED FROM OIL????

[BOOZER2009]

WAIT... SO THERE SHOULD BE NO OIL WHERE THE CONNECTING ROD SITS??WERE ITS EXPOSED THAT PART OF THE MOTOR IS SEALED FROM OIL????

 

if i understand correctly, the only oil down in the lower should be from the 2 stroke oil mxed in the gas. So basically lower parts are coated but not filled with a amount that would need draining and repalce. Correct me if I am wrong.

[Screaming Yellow Zonker]

Correct. only a film of oil from the pre-mix should be present in the lower crank case.

[bebetekbanshee358]

Correct. only a film of oil from the pre-mix should be present in the lower crank case.

shit man.. im a douche bag..lol.. i open uop my motor and left it opern for abouit a month.. so i through some engine oil down the crank case so the bearings wouldnt catch and surface rust.. and didnt drain it.. if i drain from the bottom screw would that oil coime out??? or should i take the pipes off and stick a flex vaccum 3/8 hose with a air blower and vacvuum it out threw the exhaust ports im stumped...woulkd this oilk have anytyhing to do with my shit not turning on. i did a complete wiseco prolite rebuild on the top.. compression is significantly different more force to kick now so i know the compression is good.. but shit man.. i put the oikl in there so the bearings wont catch rust.. i just fucked myself.. even though it only take 40minutes to break both sides down and put back together....give me some info. polz

[rubberneck]

shit man.. im a douche bag..lol.. i open uop my motor and left it opern for abouit a month.. so i through some engine oil down the crank case so the bearings wouldnt catch and surface rust.. and didnt drain it.. if i drain from the bottom screw would that oil coime out??? or should i take the pipes off and stick a flex vaccum 3/8 hose with a air blower and vacvuum it out threw the exhaust ports im stumped...woulkd this oilk have anytyhing to do with my shit not turning on. i did a complete wiseco prolite rebuild on the top.. compression is significantly different more force to kick now so i know the compression is good.. but shit man.. i put the oikl in there so the bearings wont catch rust.. i just fucked myself.. even though it only take 40minutes to break both sides down and put back together....give me some info. polz

 

 

How much oil are we talking here?, thats gonna determine what id do

[Hilarious]

shit man.. im a douche bag..lol.. i open uop my motor and left it opern for abouit a month.. so i through some engine oil down the crank case so the bearings wouldnt catch and surface rust.. and didnt drain it.. if i drain from the bottom screw would that oil coime out??? or should i take the pipes off and stick a flex vaccum 3/8 hose with a air blower and vacvuum it out threw the exhaust ports im stumped...woulkd this oilk have anytyhing to do with my shit not turning on. i did a complete wiseco prolite rebuild on the top.. compression is significantly different more force to kick now so i know the compression is good.. but shit man.. i put the oikl in there so the bearings wont catch rust.. i just fucked myself.. even though it only take 40minutes to break both sides down and put back together....give me some info. polz

 

so you filled the crankcase with motor oil and reassembled your engine without draining it out?

i'd pull that motor, take the plugs out and turn it upside down and let it drain out. i wouldnt use anything

to force it out.

[bebetekbanshee358]

so you filled the crankcase with motor oil and reassembled your engine without draining it out?

i'd pull that motor, take the plugs out and turn it upside down and let it drain out. i wouldnt use anything

to force it out.

 

well its noit being forced out. its being vacumed.'pulled out'.they sell blow guns with a port near the air inlet fitting.. so when u blow ur gun it pulls air thrrou8gh this tube. hence vacum..if im not mistaken as the piston travels up the crank case is exposed through the exhaust? correct.. so if i take off the pipes. and stick a hose in through the exhaust port untill it touches rock bottom and then use the blow/vacuum gun to evacuate the crankcase.. i think it makes perfect sense. im gonna crank the motor over right now and see if im correct.. can anyone else chime into my retarded newbie fuk up

[cj350banshee]

well its noit being forced out. its being vacumed.'pulled out'.they sell blow guns with a port near the air inlet fitting.. so when u blow ur gun it pulls air thrrou8gh this tube. hence vacum..if im not mistaken as the piston travels up the crank case is exposed through the exhaust? correct.. so if i take off the pipes. and stick a hose in through the exhaust port untill it touches rock bottom and then use the blow/vacuum gun to evacuate the crankcase.. i think it makes perfect sense. im gonna crank the motor over right now and see if im correct.. can anyone else chime into my retarded newbie fuk up

 

lol...The vacuum may work but your mixture will be off. It will smoke like crazy once you get it started and might foul the plugs also.

Good luck!

[bebetekbanshee358]

lol...The vacuum may work but your mixture will be off. It will smoke like crazy once you get it started and might foul the plugs also.

Good luck!

 

well what i thought would work didnt.. as the piston travels upward the skirt of the piston blocks the exhaust port so i cant stick anything in there.. but i though about doing it through the intake windows on the piston.. i dint think fast enough and i ended taking the top end apart. and just sliding the cylinders up about 15mm. and cleared 1 out. so far. i was so saucy yesterday at work that i couldnt continue to think str8.. drank a whole liter of hennessy i was shit faced........but still this shouldnt have anything to do with me not having spark.. before i dissasembled the motor it had very lil power i couldnt pull off in first gear without it falling on its facebut still started up with 2-4 cranks.. so i figured i hasd a compression problem. i couldnt go pass 3rd gear unless i rock my weight back and fourth on the bike...meanwhile all i had was a stock carb jet also/// 200 mains with pipes and lid taken off. i bought the bi8ke like this.. and it ran like a beast.....lean condition killed my rings and shopt me compression...