Havok248 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Ive heard of a few people that did fuel injection on their shee's and they run them on E85.. Can this be odne with carbs and cant E85 be used like a high octane fuel? this seems like such a cool concept to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Ive heard of a few people that did fuel injection on their shee's and they run them on E85.. Can this be odne with carbs and cant E85 be used like a high octane fuel? this seems like such a cool concept to me bump your jetting up 35% and go for it. Make sure you use a good castor oil to mix with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok248 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Ive heard E85 is like 100-105 octane could i run like 180 PSI with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 loboboy..... Can u post a pic of your FI system? If possible I would like to see a copy of your enrichment map as well. Details....??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok248 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Yeah id like to see it too.. I wish i could do an FI setup, but i just dont think i have the money or know how to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroking Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 you can run e85 with a carb,just RICHEN UP your jetting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTYFZ350 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 would one need to adjust all jetting or just the main? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 (edited) uuuuhhhhh.....Your main affects all fuel circuits.. But you have to go up roughly 35% to use E85. This means up on the main, up on the pilot and probably move your needle up too. Worth a try. It won't blow up if you don't beat it until your on the rich side and can finally do a plug chop. I'm just curious what he is using for FI control and whatnot. Also would love to see his VE map. (volumetric efficiency) Which is how most FI systems determine fuel amounts. Edited September 2, 2009 by TurboBanshee420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitbread Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 uuuuhhhhh.....Your main affects all fuel circuits.. But you have to go up roughly 35% to use E85. This means up on the main, up on the pilot and probably move your needle up too. Worth a try. It won't blow up if you don't beat it until your on the rich side and can finally do a plug chop. I'm just curious what he is using for FI control and whatnot. Also would love to see his VE map. (volumetric efficiency) Which is how most FI systems determine fuel amounts. I'm going to be efi on my shee this winter. I put up a teaser pic of the throttle bodies a while ago but I don't think anyone put it all together. I'm going to be using 04 R6 throttle bodies with a Microsquirt running it all. I'll post up pics/.msq files/whatever anyone asks to see . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok248 Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 I'm going to be efi on my shee this winter. I put up a teaser pic of the throttle bodies a while ago but I don't think anyone put it all together. I'm going to be using 04 R6 throttle bodies with a Microsquirt running it all. I'll post up pics/.msq files/whatever anyone asks to see . Thats awesome! I hope it goes smoothly and cant wait to see the finished product Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 you pulling signal off the coil neg or running a trigger wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitbread Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 you pulling signal off the coil neg or running a trigger wheel? Tapping into the pickup sensor signal and then using a gm hei module to convert it to something the microsquirt likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 I don't believe you NEED to turn it into a square wave, since I didn't and it worked great....but it would be a good idea to put a clean signal in....because i had interferance issues with the MAF signal wire from the VR sensor wire. I ended up using an RF shielded wire on all three (both VR wires +/- and the MAF signal input wire) to get rid of it. I also utilized the "dave cap" to suppress the EMP soaking I was getting off the 50,000v spark I had going on.(accel HE ign coil) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitbread Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I don't believe you NEED to turn it into a square wave, since I didn't and it worked great....but it would be a good idea to put a clean signal in....because i had interferance issues with the MAF signal wire from the VR sensor wire. I ended up using an RF shielded wire on all three (both VR wires +/- and the MAF signal input wire) to get rid of it. I also utilized the "dave cap" to suppress the EMP soaking I was getting off the 50,000v spark I had going on.(accel HE ign coil) I know you don't NEED to make the signal digital, but digital components are generally much happier with digital signals . And in this instance it only costs ~$10 so why not. I'm just going to be running mine on speed density tuning without a maf. Keeping it simple and clean. I'm just going to get it running on fuel first and get it dialed in. Then, it's time for a high volt coil and timing control. When I get really bored one day, I'll hook up a flex fuel sensor so I can pour either e85 or 93 in the tank . Gotta love microsquirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 All sounds good, but I'd stay with the cdi unless you want to push start your bike. Squirt will not fire on anything less than 50rpm's for 3 revolutions....what i'm saying is....you will never be able to kick start your bike again. Been there...done that. Stay with the CDI IGN......Do not do direct coil control unless you have plans to put e-start on the shee. MAF is not needed. I only used it for the turbo to keep track of the huge volumes of air I was pushing in. Make sure you stay away from this too. You will get a headache unless your a very smart engineer with programming experience. I promise you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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