Another "new build not start" topic

[Larry's Shee]

I know you said you had fresh fuel, but bean oil is hydroscopic(attracts moisture). With all the rain we've had in S.E. Mi. lately if your fuel wasnt sealed tightly that could be the problem.

[blowit]

I know you said you had fresh fuel, but bean oil is hydroscopic(attracts moisture). With all the rain we've had in S.E. Mi. lately if your fuel wasnt sealed tightly that could be the problem.

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygroscopy

 

 

Please see paragraph half way down regarding hydroscopic and hygroscopic.

 

 

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen99/gen99896.htm

 

 

 

 

I think I would start with a timing light in this matter and start with fresh fuel if fuel is older than 60 days.

 

 

 

 

 

Brandon

Edited May 18, 2009 by blowit

[NN2]

 

When I tried it the first time the fuel was nearly straight from the pump. The fuel is only 2 weeks old now and is surely sealed tight. Not a problem there. Tinkered with it more last night and have summarized the below.

 

-Fuel is good

-Carbs are clean

-Compression is 187psi

-Stator pick-up ohms at 90ohms (4 below spec but didn't find that a big deal)

-Source coil ohms at 16.5ohms (in spec)

-Coil-Primary is .30 ohms (in spec)

-Coil-Secondary is 6.5K ohms (in spec)

-I've tried two different coils also (in spec)

-Pilot jets are 50's

 

It has got to be either the timing with CDI or the stator. I get a good spark when kicking it hard and both plugs are out but when I give it a bit softer kick I don't see a spark most of the time. This is a stator issue, correct? If I can get a spark at all then wouldn't this eliminate a problem with the CDI? Is is possible for the stator to be bad even though it ohms correctly? Thanks all.

Edited May 19, 2009 by NN2

[2strokespirit]

Yes I have had stators that tested correct but were the problem, 2 actually. Sorry, maybe I have asked, is this a RZ stator. I converted to banshee stators because I went through 3 stators in 14months, these RZ stators are old.

It might be the CDI, it has happen!! How did you fit the pipes?? Stil the PCs?

[NN2]

Yes I have had stators that tested correct but were the problem, 2 actually. Sorry, maybe I have asked, is this a RZ stator. I converted to banshee stators because I went through 3 stators in 14months, these RZ stators are old.

It might be the CDI, it has happen!! How did you fit the pipes?? Stil the PCs?

 

It is the stock banshee stator. Still looks nearly new though. No rust. Clean. I even put dielectric grease on all contact points before putting back together. Borut got back with me about the static angle so I'm going to change that and see if that makes a difference. 2strokespirit, go to the Appearance forum and look at my post for YFRZ build. It's not too far down. I have some pictures of the mocked up pipes. They're done now but just have to upload pics. Still going to build some from scratch cause those PC's look like shit.

 

[trex565]

you never said anything about the lighting coil its the one outside the flywheel it tells coil when to fire gap at 20 do you still have the safty switch on the throutle body if its bad it wont start if you do plug wires togather

[blowit]

you never said anything about the lighting coil its the one outside the flywheel it tells coil when to fire gap at 20 do you still have the safty switch on the throutle body if its bad it wont start if you do plug wires togather

 

 

 

I did not understand a word of that with no punctuation.

[NN2]

This is going to be a freaking 100 post topic by the time I get this damn thing figured out. I changed the static timing in the zeeltronic controller as said by zeeltronic with no results. I took out the stator and I am going to try that. Weird thing is that I get a pulse from it as seen on my zeeltronic programmer regardless whether I see a spark or not. Maybe that's just how that thing works.

 

In regards to rewound stators, how reliable are they? Quality? I don't want to get mine rewound only to have to get a new one later. I figured I'd get it wound for a 200 watt.