LS1Inferno Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Posted April 13, 2009 that's a nice looking build. I know I'm gonna sound like a dick when I say this, but please don't take it that way. A 100 to 120 HP banshee motor will keep up with and more than likely beat it all day long. Here's why... Weight. A 100 to 120 HP banshee motor weighs around 85 to 90 lbs. If you owned the ZX motor outright, the motor is cheaper, but time spent fabricating, etc., isn't. In the end...I think it's cheaper to build the banshee based motor. again, that's a nice build, and I don't want to come off like a dick or anything, I just respectfully disagree with your last statement, mostly you'd need 150 HP and 80Ft lbs of torque...you wouldn't need that much because of weight, that's all. If we did nothing but spend all day on making it fit it the frame and mounting the motor it could be done in a weeks time. It actually only took about 40HRs of fab time total, because having a nice welder and torch is key. Yes i know that a 100-120 HP banshee will beat it all day long, but try and ride on WFO all day long on less then 5 gallons of gas. Yes the bike would be faster with a build banshee motor, but cheaper defiantly not it you take the time to acquire the parts as they come along. I would love to have and ride a 100 HP banshee but this we built this to be all day ridable and affordable. In my just piped, ported and 34PJ banshee i used about 20-30 bucks in oil and 10-15 gallons if not more in 91 octane, we use about 4 gallons in this thing, we bough 100 for it just because we could and it smells good and makes other people wonder, but it could run all day long 91. I know that a properly built banshee motor can and would be faster because of the weight, but i guarantee that we have A LOT less in this bike then a 4 mill built by FAST or HJR or anyone, this motor is already built for holding this much power, ive thought about building me a nice screamer but all the parts making the banshee run that fast and hold the power adds up. I know everyone has different opinions about doing things like this, but hell a busa motor put out A LOT more power then this and is much smaller and lighter then the ZX9 motor. I rode a warrior with a busa shoved into it, that thing feels exactly like a stock warrior until you twist the throttle. Yes weight is a big factor, but not when you have the power to pull it and the suspension that makes the bike feel stockish. Quote
dajogejr Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 You bring up some very well and thought out points... Gas consumption, oil consumption, ride ability, etc. I tend to look at things from a drag racing perspective, and I was more or less pointing out the numbers game. You couldn't be more on the spot with the facts you mentioned though.... 5-6 hours WOT? More like 1/2 hour or so on a methanol bike...LOL... I bet you ran into all kinds of funny things, like the kick starter having to be up to start the motor, etc. Those are some of the challenges that will make you lose hair. By all means, great, great build and great write up. I didn't want you to take it as me putting you down. If it were a drag only bike (which, clearly by the pictures it's NOT) in my opinion there is a cheaper and easier way...but for your needs, hell yeah...way to go. Quote
LS1Inferno Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Posted April 13, 2009 You bring up some very well and thought out points... Gas consumption, oil consumption, ride ability, etc. I tend to look at things from a drag racing perspective, and I was more or less pointing out the numbers game. You couldn't be more on the spot with the facts you mentioned though.... 5-6 hours WOT? More like 1/2 hour or so on a methanol bike...LOL... I bet you ran into all kinds of funny things, like the kick starter having to be up to start the motor, etc. Those are some of the challenges that will make you lose hair. By all means, great, great build and great write up. I didn't want you to take it as me putting you down. If it were a drag only bike (which, clearly by the pictures it's NOT) in my opinion there is a cheaper and easier way...but for your needs, hell yeah...way to go. Yeah i kept trying to reach down and pull out the kick starter while riding it. Its not funny when everyone sees me, freaking electric start. If i were building a drag bike i would either spend the money on a banshee motor or go steal my friends turbo busa motor. He is absolutely psycho, that thing puts out 735HP at the rear wheel, Im trying to get him to put a swinger and axle on the back so he can put it on sand ha ha. I was very happy to get the 6-7 Hrs of riding time on like 4 gallons. I wonder how much it would cost to make a banshee put out 735 HP Quote
dajogejr Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 Throw up some pics of the busa... A guy local has a turbo busa and he's said it is a VERY mild 380 or so HP. My sack just isn't that big...period... You could build a big enough banshee motor to put out 750 plus HP....once...and it would be a very expensive once. It would probably have 3 or 4 VERY large cylinders attached to it. Quote
Shags450 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) 735hp lol.. I hope you meant to say 375 I race street bikes for brickman racing I currently have a 00 zx12 shes just an old slow dinosaur in the low 5's. Cool build I've been tossing around the idea of built banshee motor or just put a street bike motor on it. Still not sure what I want to do. Mine is a Pavement only drag banshee tho Reason ive really thought heavily on the street bike motor, Alot more reliable (specially on clutches), cause if you think about it your putting in a motor thats used to having 130-180hp at all times, The stock banshee motor thats used to 36hp now has 100+ on it.. stuff starts to break! Cheaper probably in the long run. and just unique. And I really don't care about gas consumption.. if you can afford a banshee and a built motor or streetbike motor why you crying about a few dollars in gas. Nice build tho. Edited April 13, 2009 by Shags450 Quote
LS1Inferno Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Posted April 13, 2009 And I really don't care about gas consumption.. if you can afford a banshee and a built motor or streetbike motor why you crying about a few dollars in gas. Its not just a few dollars in gas its a lot of dollars in gas, and as i said before it was a shit load cheaper to build this then a banshee. around here you can get a totaled gsxr 1000 for around 750 if you are patient. cheaper if you are really patient Quote
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