Without the bar. But my 145lb ass still keeps it under 400 total. I run 500 ft dirt. And those tires are just roll arounds. I rolled the thing off the trailer, never been out pf 1st gear with it, ran 6.2s at 96. Currently fine tuning it for this weekends event. Hoping to see under 6s and break 100mph. The hoses will definitely go away next year, and the motor mounts up front need fixed. But other than those small things, everytime i dump that clutch, it launches perfectly straight. My goal is eventually setting up my own shop, but for now.......jobs here and there will work