guys, all I ave to say about boots is lear to love them u'll wanna thro them out after oen ride if ur nto use to them but get used to them, riding without them is jsut asking for a compound fracture, Iride fox forma pro's, litte stiff at first but very comfy once broken in. gonna shop aroud before I buy my next boots.. i've been riding these boots for almost a hyear not and the only flaw is one clip wont stay closed.. aparrently I can order the part i need tho