i am selling them because i am parting out my bike and with no motor ect... i have no use for the pipes. but i will tell you and minkia38 and any one else that has these pipes will tell you that they are bad ass and fit, finish, quality, and performance of the pipes are second to none. my dad isnt back with the other computer that has the pics of my pipes but i have pics of minkia38's bike with the pipes on it that i can send you. will those work. my pipes are in great shape no dents dings ect...