No doubt, the question is not whether ill love the 450 for towing, its how much will i hate it for daily driving. I dont tow my 5th wheel a whole lot as i dont seem to be camping or riding much anymore. When i haul my gooseneck its usually only from farm to farm (less than 20 miles) and not all that often really. So the question is will the benefit outweigh the pain in the ass. I guess if i was a baller id get a 1/2 ton for daily and then a dedicated tow rig but fuck all that wasted monies.