very curious?

[jack350]

hey people i have a stock motor and soon hoping in the furture to mod it....

 

Im looking to buy the Noss head but dont no anything about it like do i need to change the timing or do i just swap heads and my bike will run quicker???(very curious they look good hahah)

 

im aslo looking at buying an intake manifold to suit v force reeds like the noss head i dont know much about them.. are they worth the money??? does the manifold make a difference??? should i stay with the stock cages and change the reeds?with the new manifold will i need spacer kit? will i ned to change my jetting?(this being my next mod)

 

Now lets talk bigg $$$ if i was to buy a 4mm stroker kit aand use the Noss head with no porting how do i no how much compression i want or is required? will i need to port it? change timing? change pistons?(later on in the future)

 

let us know what u think im currently running T-5 s with a pro design foam air filter with the toomey vents in the air box and lid..

any suggestions willing to spend up to a couple of hund. for now...What do u think i should do and where can i get the best pricess coz in Australia every thing will cost ya a arm and a leg

 

thanks jack

Edited August 14, 2008 by jack350

[jack350]

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[No Limit Powersports]

Putting a head on is a great mod to start with gives you almost unlimitless adjustablility on your compression and squish for future mods. Can you bolt one right one with no mods? Yes nothing else is needed. As far as picking a dome this is a very broad question, what gas you going to run, are you going to port, are you going to stroke all of these things have to be considered when choosing a dome. If you do decided to do a stroker a +4mm stroke 5mm longer rod is the most common and you will need either a spacer plate or special cut domes to compensate for the longer stroke and different pistons to compensate for the longer rod. A head timing plate and pipes are all great starting mods and the jetting should be checked/addressed with all of them.

 

Hope this helps

[hyperlite33]

Between the head and the reeds, I noticed on my bike a bigger increase in power and crisp throttle response with the VF3 reeds...just swap them with the stock reeds, only mod would be to cut your stock intakes which Vforce explains in the directions.

Not saying the head is bad, I just found in my application the reeds made a bigger difference...if you haven't taken off the TORS yet though, I would do that before either of these mods...

[jack350]

Between the head and the reeds, I noticed on my bike a bigger increase in power and crisp throttle response with the VF3 reeds...just swap them with the stock reeds, only mod would be to cut your stock intakes which Vforce explains in the directions.

Not saying the head is bad, I just found in my application the reeds made a bigger difference...if you haven't taken off the TORS yet though, I would do that before either of these mods...

 

 

 

i was going towards the vf3 reeds but was wondering if they come with cages.. and do you also think its worth buying the billet intake manifold? or its more for looks than performance?... i will also be removin the tors.. anything i should look out for when removing it or is it straight forward?

 

thanks

[jack350]

i was going towards the vf3 reeds but was wondering if they come with cages.. and do you also think its worth buying the billet intake manifold? or its more for looks than performance?... i will also be removin the tors.. anything i should look out for when removing it or is it straight forward?

 

thanks

 

 

p.s with the vf3 reeds and cages instead of the manifold would i need to get reed spacers?

[hyperlite33]

Yeah the VF3 are the cages and the reeds all together. As for the billet intake...don't get it unless you are getting bigger carbs and need the bigger intake. You don't need the reed spacers with the VF3's.

 

There was a thread about removing the tors, but I am pretty sure the instructions with the tors removal kit will explain it...definetly the first mod though unless just going around the whole removal and get new bigger carbs!

[4stroker]

hey mate are you on ozatv.com at all?

 

get a noss head with 20cc domes, and a cheap timing plate and set it at +4.

 

rejet to suit and use BP 98 fuel.

 

with your pipes this will put you at about 42-45hp.

 

if you want another 4-5hp, add vf3s and bigger carbs.

 

if you still want more power, get a stroker crank, pistons, a port job and new domes.

 

how much horsepower you have then will depened on the port job/type of riding you do, but would be at least 60hp, and at the most probably 80hp!!

 

oh yeah even with the first few mods you will need a heavy duty clutch.

 

good luck,

 

mark.

[jack350]

Yeah the VF3 are the cages and the reeds all together. As for the billet intake...don't get it unless you are getting bigger carbs and need the bigger intake. You don't need the reed spacers with the VF3's.

 

There was a thread about removing the tors, but I am pretty sure the instructions with the tors removal kit will explain it...definetly the first mod though unless just going around the whole removal and get new bigger carbs!

 

 

cool i will be definetly buy the vf3s... i just came back from the yamaha dealership to return some jets and asked them how much they were selling there vf3s. he told me i will give them to ya for a good price $550.00 dont worry i looked at him and said :no:

 

with the carbs i think i will leave them stock.... for now

[jack350]

hey mate are you on ozatv.com at all?

 

get a noss head with 20cc domes, and a cheap timing plate and set it at +4.

 

rejet to suit and use BP 98 fuel.

 

with your pipes this will put you at about 42-45hp.

 

if you want another 4-5hp, add vf3s and bigger carbs.

 

if you still want more power, get a stroker crank, pistons, a port job and new domes.

 

how much horsepower you have then will depened on the port job/type of riding you do, but would be at least 60hp, and at the most probably 80hp!!

 

oh yeah even with the first few mods you will need a heavy duty clutch.

 

good luck,

 

mark.

 

 

 

yea i just signed up at ozatv.

 

every mod on my bike i have purchased on ebay from US.. just wondering if u no any reasonable shops down here who wont charge double the price.. it really sux

 

i will also look into buying the noss head.. cheers

 

i also have been using mobil fuel premium do you think this ok?

[jack350]

i just bought the VF3s for $221.00 US :biggrin:

[jack350]

p.s im currently runnin std pilot jet.. and 280 main elevation at 2050ft and 20-30`C

 

with the VF3 reeds will i need to re-jet if yes why?

 

thanks

[hyperlite33]

p.s im currently runnin std pilot jet.. and 280 main elevation at 2050ft and 20-30`C

 

with the VF3 reeds will i need to re-jet if yes why?

 

thanks

 

I think it depends on your current jetting...they may lean it out a little bit, so if you are on the rich side you should be fine. :thumbsup:

[Erwin8r]

I think it depends on your current jetting...they may lean it out a little bit, so if you are on the rich side you should be fine. :thumbsup:

 

Mine actually richened the bottom up a bit, so you'll need to double-check after installation. I have the VF3s, and used a billet intake designed for VF3's simply because I didn't want to go through the hassle of cutting my stock intakes (its a pain in the rear!). I also installed a set of Keihin 29mmm PWKS--this was probably my favorite mod (after exhaust) as it completely simplified tuning and gave me very crisp carburetion. At the very least, get a TORS removal kit and dump that ugly crap that lives on top of your carbs!

 

You can find most of these things cheap on eBay (I see tons of carbs, etc. on there regularly--matter of fact, there is a nice set of Mikuni TM 28mm's on there right now...), and you'll learn a heck of a lot by replacing the parts. I've also had great luck on here with fellow HQ members and good deals on good parts.

Edited August 15, 2008 by Erwin8r

[POORBOY350]

what are TORS? sorry newbie?