Banshee Bogs When Warm, Ricky Stator

[Wheelie Ripper]

Update: I have been playing around with the banshee all day today trying everthing I could think of. The two leads going to the coil were a little sloppy so i tightend them up a little. I also had a brand new coil sitting around so I put that in. The bike runs good for longer now but eventually starts acting up but not as bad as it was. I ohm checked the boots and found one read 150K ohms and the other is OL (open circuit). I was wondering if this could be the gremlin I have been chasing. If so, where do purchase the NGK boots? Thanks

[Wheelie Ripper]

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[2004LEBanshee]

not sure if thats it but thier cheap try it I would think they should test the same. I bought mine at my local cycle shop.

[1qwkgoat]

Mine turned out to be the carbs. The only reason I can come up with is this was the first tank of the high ethanol gas. We put it slightly bigger jets and raised the needles one clip. Runs like a champ well it did for another 30 minutes now my trans is stuck in 5th and 6th. Hopefully you get you problem worked out and your shee isn't as big a pile of shit as mine is right now

[mercury65]

just to let you know that runing higher then needed octane fuel wont make a bike run better it will make it run worse. higher octane fuel is harder to burn(more stable) and gives u les btu's(power) higher flash point fuels let you squees them more such as disel, disel is so hard to burn that it wont even fire in a gas motor. but disel motors have more then twice the copresion that gas motors have. there is a lot more to it then that but that should give u a idea of how it works.

[rtcc]

Update: I have been playing around with the banshee all day today trying everthing I could think of. The two leads going to the coil were a little sloppy so i tightend them up a little. I also had a brand new coil sitting around so I put that in. The bike runs good for longer now but eventually starts acting up but not as bad as it was. I ohm checked the boots and found one read 150K ohms and the other is OL (open circuit). I was wondering if this could be the gremlin I have been chasing. If so, where do purchase the NGK boots? Thanks

 

 

Keep unpdating this thread. I am chasing the same problems. When I first go out riding my shee rips, but about 15 minutes later when it gets really hot it misses like crazy on the low and mid throttle. I have backed off the main jets some and it has helped but it will still do it. My only concern is that the plugs are never wet or really black like it is fouled completely. I even changed the plugs once while it was doing it and it didnt help anything. So I am worried it is some crazy electrical problem. I never boil over coolant and it doesnt seem out of the ordinary hot.

 

I really dont know what else to do. I guess I need to start changing out the boots and coils and all that stuff. My stator is only a few months old, but it did it before I put it in as well.

[mdhc500]

150K is too much resistance... I got some NGK caps at a local shop... You can get info on

NGK dealers from NGK's site as well... Keep posting updates as you get things worked out...

[1qwkgoat]

just to let you know that runing higher then needed octane fuel wont make a bike run better it will make it run worse. higher octane fuel is harder to burn(more stable) and gives u les btu's(power) higher flash point fuels let you squees them more such as disel, disel is so hard to burn that it wont even fire in a gas motor. but disel motors have more then twice the copresion that gas motors have. there is a lot more to it then that but that should give u a idea of how it works.

 

What I was refering to about the gas was the high ethanol content you now get from the pump in your gas. Don't get that confused with methanol alcohol. I know all about the effect of octane on the flash point. I went with a little higher octane (93) because I advanced the timing and better safe then sorry I figure. Where I live at the pump gas is 10% ethanol which is added as a oxidzer to help with emissions. Thats why we in bigger jets since with this gas/ethanol mix to a certain effect has 10% less fuel in the cylinder we went up on the jets to compensate. My friends who have 5.0 mustangs we also raised there fuel pressure to compensate and it made a difference there to.

 

I put my RS back on and it ran fine saturday and I had to fix the tranny sunday but I still put about 3 hrs on it and no problems so far. I did take the ground wire loose from my stator and the one back by the regulator and cleaned those up real with some sand paper. I removed all the TORS wiring and added another ground where the TORS box was mounted. Maybe you don't have a good enough ground and it putting alot of heat into the stator. I'm running some MSD boots and terminals that I left from cut to length automotive kit. They work fine and the boots appear as though they would be water proof.

Edited August 11, 2008 by 1qwkgoat

[mercury65]

What I was refering to about the gas was the high ethanol content you now get from the pump in your gas. Don't get that confused with methanol alcohol. I know all about the effect of octane on the flash point. I went with a little higher octane (93) because I advanced the timing and better safe then sorry I figure. Where I live at the pump gas is 10% ethanol which is added as a oxidzer to help with emissions. Thats why we in bigger jets since with this gas/ethanol mix to a certain effect has 10% less fuel in the cylinder we went up on the jets to compensate. My friends who have 5.0 mustangs we also raised there fuel pressure to compensate and it made a difference there to.

 

I put my RS back on and it ran fine saturday and I had to fix the tranny sunday but I still put about 3 hrs on it and no problems so far. I did take the ground wire loose from my stator and the one back by the regulator and cleaned those up real with some sand paper. I removed all the TORS wiring and added another ground where the TORS box was mounted. Maybe you don't have a good enough ground and it putting alot of heat into the stator. I'm running some MSD boots and terminals that I left from cut to length automotive kit. They work fine and the boots appear as though they would be water proof.

 

was not telling you your not the one running vp and your not tho one that started the thred. and its better to give info freeley then to assume one knows

[1qwkgoat]

I was just explaining that i know the effect of different octane fuels. I also posted it since my shee seemed to have the same problem the original poster has after I alsoinstalled a RS stator, I told him I would let him know what fixed mine. Mine just happened to be a coincidence with the the RS install.

Edited August 12, 2008 by 1qwkgoat