Do it all banshee...

[Joshtruction]

I know I am flat broke and can't afford a thing right now, but I am still trying to get a game plan set for when I do get a Shee. My friends around here do lots of different riding. I have been going out on my friends 07 YFZ a lot lately. We ride everything from long sections of whoops, to jumps, to muddy rocky hard to navigate trails, old fire roads, and even occasional sand. Winter time as soon as it snows everyone is out cruising on the quads having a blast. As soon as all the guys hit open area's we get drag racing sessions going. Everyone lines up one after another and we do lots of side by side drags. Sometimes we get carried away and start throwing down 10 bucks a race. All the guys I ride with are hardcore into drag racing cars, but when it comes to quads it's all about all around fun with them. That drag racing side of us is still there all the time though!

 

 

 

So I have been for ever trying to think of a banshee combo that would work good for all of this. My thoughts lately would be a really aggressive dune port from Kerr with a 4mm crank, CPI in frames since they come on a little sooner than shearers, and possibly a 2 into 1 carb set up? Would a 2-1 be better than small duals for this combo? I want to be able to do some of the slow trails we have, but I really want to be able to crack down on thier modded 450's when dragging. Would the set up I just named be too much for a shorter swing arm? I really don't want to go much bigger than stock unless I have to. I'd really like to go shorter if possible, but I don't want it to be a steady battle of trying to keep the front end down. I realise most people with a 4mil on a dune port are running +4's but most of them are also in the dunes. Could I get away with that for the riding I do?

[dajogejr]

Hate to say it....but get a four stroke.

 

Based on your description, it has the power to weight, suspension and torque to do it better.

 

If you rode wide open trails, fire roads, sand...much more frequently, Then I'd say port a nice shee and work on the suspension to make due.

[dajogejr]

We ride everything from long sections of whoops, to jumps, to muddy rocky hard to navigate trails, old fire roads, and even occasional sand.

 

Properly modded a banshee is king of the drag. For what you listed above...you need a torquier bike with good suspension. Neither are inherent banshee traits. Both are box stock, out of the factory traits for a newer 450 or Raptor.

 

If you're flat broke, you'll spend a ton of money on banshee suspension to even be considered in the same breath as these newer 4 strokes.

 

Then even more on the motor....

[Joshtruction]

I don't care about the best trail bike. Thats my least desired type of riding. I'd get a 4x4 if I wanted to do lots of trails. I love wide open screaming. I love blasting as fast as I possibly can. I like the feeling of top end wanting to rip you off of your bike. I personally like the fire roads, open fields, snow runs, and drag racing the most out of the riding we do. I dig MX stuff too, but I only do that for fun. The guy that owned my house before me owned a construction company and was big into MX. Now there is a huge MX track behind my house barely getting used. I'd blast the straights and table tops on that all day if I had my own bike.

 

 

Bottom line is I want a ripping fast banshee weather it is the best choice for me or not. I had an 01 RM250 with a dune port and pro circuit pipes, and I still wanted more straight line power. I'll post a pic of that in a minute.

[dajogejr]

Not to be a smart ass...but why list all the terrain you ride in when all you care about is the rip roaring fast bike.

Don't worry about the part of a smoking motor not being worth squat if you can't get the power to the ground (suspension, setup, chassis)

 

This is an easy one....tell us your engine budget, we can go from there.

[Joshtruction]

Not to be a smart ass...but why list all the terrain you ride in when all you care about is the rip roaring fast bike.

Don't worry about the part of a smoking motor not being worth squat if you can't get the power to the ground (suspension, setup, chassis)

 

This is an easy one....tell us your engine budget, we can go from there.

 

 

I posted all that to see if the motor combo I named can handle that stuff. Not the best, but make it without having reliability issues, over heating, fouling plugs every half mile, toasting the clutch etc etc.

 

I know it won't do squat without good suspension.

 

 

As far as budget, nothing at the moment. This is just all talk and idea's. Once I get a set plan I will probably buy a part here or there until it is done. Might take a while, but I don't mind.

[dajogejr]

Ok...got it.

Change the CPIs out for T5s or Trinity pipes.

Get a pair of 28mm PWK carbs. Other than that..looks good.

[Joshtruction]

Ok...got it.

Change the CPIs out for T5s or Trinity pipes.

Get a pair of 28mm PWK carbs. Other than that..looks good.

 

 

sweet, thanks for the help! Think I can still slap down a yfz with a cam, full exhaust, good tune, weighted flywheel, k&n's, and holeshots using t5's? That quad is usually the fastest out of the bunch when the guys drag race. That and my pro skater buddys ported and modded suzuki 250r.

[dajogejr]

Ported right...yes.

Kevin will take care of you.

450s' gonna be tough to get out of the hole...they hook and have a ton of torque on tap. But, keep him close, reel him in then blow by him.

[Frogger]

If this is just for shits and giggles I'll tell you what you should do. Advance timing, cool head, pipes of course (go with CPI's, but I'm bias) dune/play port and then just bore the stock carbs.

[Joshtruction]

If this is just for shits and giggles I'll tell you what you should do. Advance timing, cool head, pipes of course (go with CPI's, but I'm bias) dune/play port and then just bore the stock carbs.

 

 

So pretty much everything I said aside from the crank. I was thinking get the crank so it helps with low end torque.

[Animalman294]

Well when the money starts rollin' in then we can get you all set up, and thats after you get bike............. :biggrin: