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Squirell...

 

No offense.

On a big motor with a stock swinger, even if you super glued the front end down...one of two things is happening.

The back tires are not getting traction...or you are wheeling...

 

There is no other. You simply can not take a 120 to 150 HP motor, on a stock swingarm with the front end strapped down and get traction and not stand it straight up.

 

If you are not doing one you're doing the other... Or, you're not giving the bike full throttle...which, IMO is a waste too.

 

Sorry...just my own findings from racing with guys from stock motors to BIG motors...and RDZ and A&S know how to make motors run as well....

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no offense taken trust me. have you ever strapped down a bike? when these guys launch its at full throttle. you usually spin thru first and catch at second. yeah thats not full potential speed but for a stand up set up it is. no wheelies just spinning thru first. thats how we dont wheely the bike we spin thru first and catch at second. when we launch we push down on the handlebars and let those bike tires rip. im 100% positive a slower drag bike can beat the stand up set up of the launch but you only gonna have around five people to race. having a stand up set up down here is how you pick up a race. i forgot to mention when i say spinning i dont mean we spin in place and then start moving in second. we're moving as were spinning it the only way to take off on a stand up bike. if you dont spin off the launch then its wheely time. if you wheely time your pockets are gonna stay empty. and yes i completly understand to get full potential power of the launch you need the proper set up i dont disagree. having a drag set up down here is boring, you might have no one to race at the drag strip unless you wanna drive 4 hours to immokalee. unfortunately street racing with stand up set ups is whats popular down here.

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no offense taken trust me. have you ever strapped down a bike?

 

Yep...sure have on a lot smaller motors...just not the same as a lowered bike with struts or real pumped up Marvins...:)

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your right not the same. im sure struted and extended swingarms you launch alot better. i had a +10 on struts with a small motor. i was coming out of the whole real nice. now i got more motor and have a stock set up. i sold my struts, slicks and swingarm. like i said down here drag bikes barely pick up any races.

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dave.. alot of people are doin that around here now... 4 mill cubs that look like a stock bike. they even have their stock heads cut for thr 4 mill. or black noss or mod quad heads so they look stock.

 

ive cought acouple of people doin that shit.... sorry but thats a mono block

and those 34 pj's are not stock carbs.... :cool:

but they will still swear they are stock bolt ons.... bolt on cubs..

 

its all about gambling.... they will make it look slow ,then the cash comes out. bunch of bullshit to me...

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dave.. alot of people are doin that around here now... 4 mill cubs that look like a stock bike. they even have their stock heads cut for thr 4 mill. or black noss or mod quad heads so they look stock.

 

ive cought acouple of people doin that shit.... sorry but thats a mono block

and those 34 pj's are not stock carbs.... :cool:

but they will still swear they are stock bolt ons.... bolt on cubs..

 

its all about gambling.... they will make it look slow ,then the cash comes out. bunch of bullshit to me...

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Whats so bad about making your bike look like a sleeper?And really Im not worried what others have to race they just better not question me because All Ill say is Cub on alky.If you put a +14 or w/e on a 4mill Cub here you will get laughed at.Then you bring it down and youll just stay in the line spinning or you will have a nice bog leaving the whole

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Different strokes for for different folks but you guys will just never understand how shit is down here so keep on with your stupid comments Fouledout.Dont really care :geek

 

Easy killer... Wasn't tryin to sound ignorant.. Was just stating that things were different in Miami. As you said before... Hence the "its a Miami thing" comment .

 

You've told me before that people down there build big motors and tell people that there 4mils. I didn't say anything about you doin it.

 

I think the setups you guys run are a lil unorthodox but thats just my opinion and I wasn't trying to push it onto anyone. I probably would go about things different but thats not the point. You guys think we're goofy up here.. I'm cool with that. :cool:

 

Who cares, Do what you do and have fun doing it! Wich is the long way of saying "oh well.. Party on man! :thumbsup: "

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Easy killer... Wasn't tryin to sound ignorant.. Was just stating that things were different in Miami. As you said before... Hence the "its a Miami thing" comment .

 

You've told me before that people down there build big motors and tell people that there 4mils. I didn't say anything about you doin it.

 

I think the setups you guys run are a lil unorthodox but thats just my opinion and I wasn't trying to push it onto anyone. I probably would go about things different but thats not the point. You guys think we're goofy up here.. I'm cool with that. :cool:

 

Who cares, Do what you do and have fun doing it! Wich is the long way of saying "oh well.. Party on man! :thumbsup: "

 

Its really the best way to race around here ask nate I was going to go all out but its just not worth it round here.And My bike is just a lil 350 :whistling: lol

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wow, what a topic i started... lol i'd like to be able to have this as a stand up bike, but i think i would like the extended swingarm, i would go with like a +6 or so and just strap it or use struts and make it look strapped down. i think i would be doing a lot of 1/8mile as i dont have nearly the big enough balls to go and run with you guys down in miami (i dont like running from the popo) i would like that sleeper look just acouple things to help it hook up and be able to launch on it hard and not have to deal with tire spin off the line, I might eventually go and do a little streeting with it but i would need to learn this bike on a track before i just jump in the ring with the big dogs....

 

06, let me know when your gonna be running it, i'm usually out at 27 on friday nights at the sunoco there watching the street races(my jeep wont keep up lol) after the car show in broward

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Yeah, the lying and BS would piss me right off.

It takes .5 seconds to spot a stock cylinder vs. an aftermarket.

And another .5 to spot stock carbs vs. aftermarket....

 

If it's my money, I'm going to know what I'm getting into. if it's for fun...I'll run anything....

 

I drive 2 hours to not have to worry about the cops, etc., and to get legit results....that's more fun to me...:)

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its that down here were a bunch of cheap refugees that use one bike for two different purposes. first we strap the bike down and do a little street racing then we unstrap the bike and do a little trail riding. its the best of both worlds. i got my straps set up so smooth that to lower the bike i just have to pull the strap and to stand up the bike i just have to push the little button. yup.

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its that down here were a bunch of cheap refugees that use one bike for two different purposes. first we strap the bike down and do a little street racing then we unstrap the bike and do a little trail riding. its the best of both worlds. i got my straps set up so smooth that to lower the bike i just have to pull the strap and to stand up the bike i just have to push the little button. yup.

 

 

Well I dont really trail ride my bike I might drive it up and down some dirt roads and stuff next to werever I park my truck but no real trail riding for me.Kinda Hard with Shearer OOF Stinger Pipes anyways and an override and ALky lol.I mean that is the perfect combo for trails right Dave?I just dont like it lol

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sounds like a good trail bike for me. lol. if you didnt have the out of frames you can definately trail ride though. i ride with 2 guys with 10mill's you just cant go thru water and when your done riding you gotta clean your air filters. thats if you have any filters on and change your spark plugs. oh i forgot you have to carry your gas with you to.

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