300 ft Dirt Drags in Kennett, MO

[2bzy2p]

i guess it all depends on the turnout but that pro mod open could be a very wide class...i think maybe it should be broke down to same as far as nos-alky-turbo but break it to a 420cc-like a 500cc class.

[dynodon]

Yeah, I agree !!! If you dont your gonna have a 4 mill racing against a16 mil that could be squeezing the juice.

We always broke that class down to a 550cc and below, and 551cc and up naturally aspired ( no turbo) but juice is allowed.

 

Another thing to consider, With all of those classes, your gonna be there for a month of sundays trying to get them all run. Try to condense some of the other classes where possible. Unless you start early and run to late in the night. just my opinion. 16 classes is ALOT to run in one day

Edited July 3, 2007 by dynodon

[J-Madd]

A 4mill on gas would run in the open 2-stroke class. You could also run it in the pro-mod class as well. I may consider breaking that class up, though; as suggested.

 

I know that I've got a lot of classes to deal with, but I don't really expect to have riders in every class. Not sure how to condense any of the classes, any help would be appreciated. This is the list of classes Jeff Ross ("THEBOM" on planetsand) gave me for places that he races. He did say that I would have to see what shows up, though; and that it's impossible to please everyone with class placement.

 

Thanks. :beer:

[holeshot2]

so a stock cylinder 4mm on alky the only class for it is pro mod?? :shoothead:

[dynodon]

He is right there, You CANNOT please everyone !!!!!!!

 

Here is what we ran for awhile;

utility class----- must be 4x4 gas only

kids class`s 10 and under, under 110cc

older kids 11-15 up no bigger than a 300cc

Stock sport class

stock banshee

mod banshee

pro mod banshee

oulaw class`s

550cc and down, 551cc and up ( naturally aspired)nos O.K.

heavy hitters class run what ya brung

 

Of course, changes will be made as to what shows up. REMEMBER, You will NOT please everyone. There will always be someone pissing and moaning about something !!!!!!

 

GOOD luck bro, sounds like your on the right path......

[holeshot2]

He is right there, You CANNOT please everyone !!!!!!!

 

Here is what we ran for awhile;

utility class----- must be 4x4 gas only

kids class`s 10 and under, under 110cc

older kids 11-15 up no bigger than a 300cc

Stock sport class

stock banshee

mod banshee

pro mod banshee

oulaw class`s

550cc and down, 551cc and up ( naturally aspired)nos O.K.

heavy hitters class run what ya brung

 

Of course, changes will be made as to what shows up. REMEMBER, You will NOT please everyone. There will always be someone pissing and moaning about something !!!!!!

 

GOOD luck bro, sounds like your on the right path......

no pissing and moaning here,just i have never seen nothing like that,,i will run the little 4mm in the gas class and go back and run pro mod

[dynodon]

Thats all I have is a little 4 mil. I ran in the 550cc and down, and theheavy hitters class. There was also a few et classes i couldve sand bagged for 6.0,5.2,4.2

[BFD Race'n]

This is Buzz from BFD Race'n. I just found this post and was reading it and there is one thing that concerned me . When you was asking about what way to start off by the tree's or the bleachers and the person was concerned about the tree at 60'. I would start between the bleachers because of the crowd a bike would have a better chance going around the tree at 200' than the bleachers at three hundred feet, and if there is an acccident the rider is less likley to sue than a spectator. It could get very bad in a hurry if a bike got into the crowd. just my thoughts. Also any chance you are going to have more races I can bring down some of my crew for the Atchison and KC area but we have a race on the 28th wish it was on a Sunday afternoon. The classes are the toughest thing to get, becuase most generally there is only two or three in the class when you are starting up. If there is anyway possible to bracket race that is the way to go it seems. I know everybody likes headsup I do, but there is no payback and it is very tough to get everybody a race because of the number of bikes there.

[J-Madd]

This is Buzz from BFD Race'n. I just found this post and was reading it and there is one thing that concerned me . When you was asking about what way to start off by the tree's or the bleachers and the person was concerned about the tree at 60'. I would start between the bleachers because of the crowd a bike would have a better chance going around the tree at 200' than the bleachers at three hundred feet, and if there is an acccident the rider is less likley to sue than a spectator. It could get very bad in a hurry if a bike got into the crowd. just my thoughts. Also any chance you are going to have more races I can bring down some of my crew for the Atchison and KC area but we have a race on the 28th wish it was on a Sunday afternoon. The classes are the toughest thing to get, becuase most generally there is only two or three in the class when you are starting up. If there is anyway possible to bracket race that is the way to go it seems. I know everybody likes headsup I do, but there is no payback and it is very tough to get everybody a race because of the number of bikes there.

 

 

I plan on having more races. We won't be bracket racing this first one for sure. I'm gonna have a suggestion box for future races to get rider input. As far as starting between the bleachers, the track is too short in either direction to start there. I've got to work on the track this week, and I can get exact measurements on track length, distance to the bleachers, etc.

 

Buzz..we're a LONG way from KC. I'd be glad to have ya'll race, but I'm not sure this little race would be worth your drive.

[J-Madd]

Here's what I've come up with so far. Track will open 9:30 AM Saturday, July 28th. Registration at 11:30. Test and tune (3 passes only) from 12:00 to 1:00. Races begin around 1:30. Times are approximate.

 

Here are the classes:

 

Tentative Classes:

 

- Youth Class

o Ages 4

[2bzy2p]

The approximate address is 901 E. South Bypass Kennett MO 63857. The location is behind the building at that address.

 

I've broken up the Pro Mod Class to up to 500 cc, and over 500 cc.

 

I also need some help with what I call the "stock" Banshee class (hardly anyone has a non-piped Banshee). I'm allowing bored stock cylinders and Wiseco pistons in that class, and I'm getting some complaints. Mainly because I have a friend that has .060'' over stock non ported cylinders, wiseco pistons, +4 timing, milled head, T5s that has smoked every single non ported Banshee it has raced, even when it had stock pistons in it. We only bored it b/c a circlip came out and f'ed up the cylinder.

 

Should I change that class to only allow stock pistons/bore? I never really considered boreing stock cylinders as a significant modification......no one does it to make power, only to freshen up the motor. What about the milled head? I haven't thought about that......should i allow that? I hate to have all these local piped Banshees not show up because of this; even though they could bore their's 0.0100'' over and it still won't touch this one...it's just a freak of nature.

I'm also getting a complaint about cams not being a bolt on mod. I thought about removing that restriction. Cams don't do a hell of a lot on a YFZ imo. The stock ones are pretty decent in cam mod position.

 

Thanks.

well i just wouldnt run a stock banshee class,going as far as saying your allowing bored stock cylinders and weisco pistons is silly?? whats the difference what pistons are ran? and are you going to have a tear down?well it sounds like your gonna have a bunch of complainers if they race and cant win!! id just make the classes you want and say come or stay home.I mean no one wants to race a bike they know they cant beat..so do you cater to that?? if you do good luck with those races..someone will have something to bitch about in every class.one thing i have noticed about these small deals is they tend to set up the classes for their bikes and what they can or cant win,,that kinda sucks

[J-Madd]

I don't want anyone to think I set up the classes for anyone's advantage,especially mine. I have a 392 and 421 Cub, and I have to run them in the same class. I'm sure as hell not gonna run anywhere near Bigboybanshee's time in that class. I talked to Jeff Ross (some of you probably know who he is) about the classes for about 30 minutes on the phone about the classes at places he races, and what I have listed is basically what he said. I asked about boring/pistons for the Banshee class and he said it was allowed to have bored cylinders and stock replacement pistons b/c almost everyone has rebuilt their Banshee at 1 time or another (who puts stock pistons back in.) I don't think pistons or boring matter that much in general. We also polished the exhaust port (not the transfers or intakes whatsoever) and I'm getting some bitchin' about that. Hell, I wonder if he ran with a plug wire off if they'd still complain!!j/k. I want the race to be fair. They still have a chance for 2nd place.....maybe 1st if he red lights or misses a gear. BTW he has a wheelie bar, too; which I'm allowing in every class, so he could probably run pretty good in the Open 2-stroke class.

 

I will use the responses to this to influence my decision on whether or not to change the class. I don't want it to be based solely on my own opinions.

 

Please respond or send a PM with opinions on this or any other aspect or questions regarding the event. Criticism is welcome. I won't take it personal............all this shit is new to me!!

 

Thanks

[2bzy2p]

gotcha,,and im not trying to dog the event or what not,,just been to alot of put togethers like this and have came across those situations.so just kinda throwing it out there for ya.

[J-Madd]

Alright........here's what I've come up with.

 

The "Stock" Banshee Class must run a stock head/stock compression, and cylinders have to be untouched (other than routine boring/honing)....no polishing intakes or exhaust ports at all. I think I'll allow cool heads as long as they have stock domes, and just check compression (<130 psi) if it is in question. Does that sound feasible?

 

In the 450 - 700 4 stroke bolt on class, I thought about allowing aftermarket cams, but I've been told that Craptors and DS650s have to go to aftermarket pistons to change cams, which would automatically take them out of the bolt on class. Only the 450s would benefit from that, so I'm kind of stuck there.........not sure what to do with the Honda HRC cam either.........

 

Also, there is a typo in the utility class. It should be 651 cc and up, not 651-700cc.

 

Guardrail and straw bails are on the way; and were getting the track real close to 800 ft, I think. It's supposed to be finished this week.

 

Thanks, and I hope to see some of you there,

 

Jerid

Edited July 19, 2007 by J-Madd

[okbeast]

Why are you putting so much restrictions on the Banshee's. I didn't read real close but is there even a 350cc Open class where banshee's with alot of bolt-ons can run?