bearing carriers (funked up deal here)

[Mullet Man]

so tonite i took apart both of the swingarms i have for the Blasters. what a PITA, previous owners did no maintenance on these things. one was dry as all get out and the other was full of water. bunch of ass clowns!

 

anyway, i got all the ball bearing bearings out after alot of heat and beating the shit out of them.

both of the carriers have the spacer inside of them and both spacers (~4" long spacer inside the carrier) are grooved beyond use on the sprocket side.

 

problem is, i dont see how these could have become grooved like this. seeing as i pulled no bearings off of or around these spacers. there is what appears to be a "bearing" inside the carrier that i have no clue on how to remove it, this is also grooved just like the spacers are but when the spacer is installed, there is a good 1/4" of space between the spacer and this "bearing". i just dont see how either could have become grooved so badly like they are. this bearing that i cant remove from the carrier looks more like a main journal or connecting rod bearing from a car instead of a bearing with actual rolling balls inside of it, like all the others i removed. or its just the outside of a roller bearing that was left behind after they pounded out all the rolling balls and inner race (i think thats what its called).

 

i can not remove the "bearings" i have left in the carriers. i cant even think of anyway a shop could remove these things. one side of it sits up against a lip inside the carrier, rendering it damn near impossible to remove, from what i can see!

 

does it sound like something was missing from both of these?

am i just over looking something here?

 

or the previous owners ran into the same issues as me and just pressed the bearings in far enuf to work because they couldnt get these out either. i guess that might explain it.

 

are stock bearings suppose to be pressed in all the way to the "lip" inside the carrier?

 

i'll get pictures of this tomorrow.

i dont think these carriers are useable anymore. !

 

(also rigged up a 'press' using 1/2" drive sockets, 19mm/1-1/8", and a 5" long carriage bolt and nut to remove the swinger pivot bearings, this worked awesome!! slide the bolt thru one side, then put the 19mm socket over it, push the bolt thru the rest of the swinger, install the 1-1/8" socket, drive side up, with a washer on top, then the nut and tighten them down, this forces the 19mm socket into the needle bearings pressing them out and into the 1-1/8" socket. no heat, no hammer! voila home made press lol)

[Mullet Man]

does this put it into perspective?

FUBAR'd!

PICS....

 

can you see the grooves in these things? LOL

 

these carriers both still have the outer ring of a bearing pressed in them. atleast i think thats what it is.

 

these bearings came out of one carrier, but they were not in the grooved area.

Edited March 25, 2007 by Mullet Man

[Lepew]

A blue tipped wrench could burn a slice thru the races without damaging the carrier if that is the only thing keeping the carriers useable again. You just need someone comfortable with a cutting torch. I have sliced the inner and outer races with a torch to removed the axle and replace the bearings with no damaged to any parts other than burning a little paint.

[nunyabinness]

here's what it sows in my clymer's manual. you could probably just take it to a machine shop and they could probably straighten it out for you. any way here's the pics...

 

 

i've never taken my axle carrier apart.

[Mullet Man]

right on nunya!

 

in your clymers, does it show a pic of the chain side without the bearing installed?

that second pic you posted is the brake side. hoping there is one for the opposite. (i need to get a clymers i know)

 

check this out

http://216.37.204.206/wps/Yamaha_OEM/Yamah...;A=228&B=20

 

it shows 3 pieces on the sprocket side, a seal, a bearing and a collar (i guess thats what is all chewed up on mine). only 2 on the brake side.

Edited March 26, 2007 by Mullet Man

[kawiking]

are the carriers on a banshee and blaster the same ? if so , if you need 1 i have a extra carrier. i bought it off e-bay 4-5 months ago for some damn reason . its off a 03' shee, its looks like its in great shape.

 

 

good luck

[nunyabinness]

nope no pics of the other side. but the last pic shows everything that should have come out of there.

 

 

 

kawiking,

 

no the banshee and the blaster carriers are not the same. but you can make spacers to make it work. good way to make the blaster rear end wider. and to upgrade the rear brakes.

[Mullet Man]

nope no pics of the other side. but the last pic shows everything that should have come out of there.

 

 

thats what throws me off.

in that microfiche i posted, it shows 3 things on the sprocket side. but i have no idea how the hell that collar could have chewed up the sleeves (too much space between).

 

i will probably just by an aftermarket RAD carrier with bearings and sleeve installed. bolt on and go. only bad thing is its $140. there goes the budget.