FireHead Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 Does any one have a 3D CAD model of a stock or modified banshee frame? I figured I'd better ask y'all before I spent all day measuring and making my own model. Quote
dave95.1 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 j/k man. I got bored at work one day and just started guessing on measurements and throwing stuff together. Quote
FireHead Posted February 4, 2007 Author Report Posted February 4, 2007 j/k man. I got bored at work one day and just started guessing on measurements and throwing stuff together. Those are some schweet rear tires. Atleast somebody had something, even if it was that. I was sort of expecting not to get any replies or someone asking what CAD was. :: What I really need, to save myself time, is points for the major items on the frame. I am looking to do a hill shooter frame that I probably will wind up having made by one of the guys from the fab shop at work, as opposed to making it myself. Since, I am not making it myself I won't be able to fiddle around with rider and component position as much. Hence the need for a fairly high fidelity CAD model. Quote
MYquadsFaster Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 how hard is cad to use? ive never used it before but it looks fun and i a friend said he can get me the program for free.... or would i be completely lost in trying to use it and end up deleting it....just curious Quote
FireHead Posted February 4, 2007 Author Report Posted February 4, 2007 how hard is cad to use? ive never used it before but it looks fun and i a friend said he can get me the program for free.... or would i be completely lost in trying to use it and end up deleting it....just curious CAD packages are generally pretty easy to use after you learn the methodology behing CAD software. Past that it all depends on the package and your thought process. Catia, UG, and Solidowrks are my favorites, with Catia V5 being my absolute favorite. ProE is ok, but it doesn't always get along well with me (due to my thought process). ProE Wildfire 2.0 is much better than previous versions, but itstill sort of cumbersome in my opinion. The most common package that people get their hands on is AutoCAD, which is mostly a 2D package. It's works for some stuff, but it is pretty worthless if you know how to use one of the other packages I mentioned. :biggrin: Quote
Animalman294 Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 Once you figure out the terminology and the little tricks, it is a lot of fun to mess around on.......... :thumbsup: Quote
dave95.1 Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 Those are some schweet rear tires. Atleast somebody had something, even if it was that. I was sort of expecting not to get any replies or someone asking what CAD was. :: What I really need, to save myself time, is points for the major items on the frame. I am looking to do a hill shooter frame that I probably will wind up having made by one of the guys from the fab shop at work, as opposed to making it myself. Since, I am not making it myself I won't be able to fiddle around with rider and component position as much. Hence the need for a fairly high fidelity CAD model. That's a CATIA V4 model from work. I have Inventor, AutoCAD2005, and Pro-E Wildfire 2.0 at home. If you get some measurements, I can mess around with the model. Quote
FireHead Posted February 5, 2007 Author Report Posted February 5, 2007 That's a CATIA V4 model from work. I have Inventor, AutoCAD2005, and Pro-E Wildfire 2.0 at home. If you get some measurements, I can mess around with the model. I have UG NX4, ProE Wildfire, Catia V5, and Solidworks at home. I do all my personal stuff in Catia or UG. I have had to use all of these for work at one point in time. Catia and UG are all i have installed right now. I would be alot of work to get your model into a from that was close to an OEM banshee frame, I think. I would never ask you to do that, since I can just as easily do it myself. I am just being lazy and hoping that somebody already had a model. I was hoping to get a head start on the frame so that I can work on it while I am waiting for some of my engine parts to come back from anodizing. Quote
87sheerips Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 Yea, Catia is sweet I use it all the time. I made a Rapid Prototype model of a stator cover this semester using Catia and Cimetron. Again, made my own measurements for shits and giggles. Quote
FireHead Posted February 5, 2007 Author Report Posted February 5, 2007 Yea, Catia is sweet I use it all the time. I made a Rapid Prototype model of a stator cover this semester using Catia and Cimetron. Again, made my own measurements for shits and giggles. Did all of the bolt holes line up the first time? That was the hardest part of the deal for me. I haven't made a stator cover for a long time. I am not sure I even have any of the files anymore. I quit making them because I could never get them to be significantly lighter than a stock plastic cover. I don't have cost free access to a rapid prototyping machine anymore. I used to be able to do whatever I wanted for free where I used to work. I am probably going to make a composite stator cover for my triple, but cutting a mold for that is way down on my list of suff to do. All though it might be worth my while to have a soft mold printed out instead of machining a hard mold. :thumbsup: Quote
Hilarious Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 CAD packages are generally pretty easy to use after you learn the methodology behing CAD software. Past that it all depends on the package and your thought process. The most common package that people get their hands on is AutoCAD, which is mostly a 2D package. It's works for some stuff, but it is pretty worthless if you know how to use one of the other packages I mentioned. :biggrin: I use a couple of different AutoCad programs and add ons pretty much everyday and most of it is 3D. I use it in plant design and its a pretty power tool IMO. Way better than using a pencil. Lol Quote
FireHead Posted February 5, 2007 Author Report Posted February 5, 2007 I use a couple of different AutoCad programs and add ons pretty much everyday and most ofit is 3D. I use it in plant design and its a pretty power tool IMO. Way better than using a pencil. Lol I agree that it is better than a pencil. Industrial layout work and civil engineering type stuff is really where it still has a market share in my opinion. Quote
dave95.1 Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 I use a couple of different AutoCad programs and add ons pretty much everyday and most ofit is 3D. I use it in plant design and its a pretty power tool IMO. Way better than using a pencil. Lol It's definately better than a pencil, but if you try one of these other programs for solid modeling AutoCAD is not the best. I started out on AutoCAD in school, but once we got to modeling moved on. Quote
dave95.1 Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 I have UG NX4, ProE Wildfire, Catia V5, and Solidworks at home. I do all my personal stuff in Catia or UG. I have had to use all of these for work at one point in time. Catia and UG are all i have installed right now. I would be alot of work to get your model into a from that was close to an OEM banshee frame, I think. I would never ask you to do that, since I can just as easily do it myself. I am just being lazy and hoping that somebody already had a model. I was hoping to get a head start on the frame so that I can work on it while I am waiting for some of my engine parts to come back from anodizing. It really wouldn't take that much to start from scratch if a person had good measurements. That's the part I don't like. I did that one in about 3 hrs. I didn't even have a frame there to look at, just kinda laid stuff out is why it's not all that close to a stock frame. I have access to V5, maybe that'd be a reason to start learning how to use it. Quote
Trick2stroke Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 I just started AutoCAD, tech. drafting, and machining classes. I'm enjoying it but we're still in 2D and it's still not very involved or fun. I can't wait to start doing shit with 3D. I haven't tried anything other then AutoCAD 2007. Quote
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