2strokeBear Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 What do the tors do? and what are the benifits of removing them? Quote
dajogejr Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 What do the tors do? and what are the benifits of removing them? IN THEORY....they cut the ignition if your carb slides stick open. In reality, the don't work for crap and are more headache than what they're worth. They are cheap and easy to remove, and...your carbs are MUCH easier to work on for adjustments and/or jetting once they're gone....they really clean up the area.... Quote
banshee dave Posted January 19, 2007 Report Posted January 19, 2007 IN THEORY....they cut the ignition if your carb slides stick open. In reality, the don't work for crap and are more headache than what they're worth. They are cheap and easy to remove, and...your carbs are MUCH easier to work on for adjustments and/or jetting once they're gone....they really clean up the area.... bad ass reply :thumbsup: Quote
fastrthnu Posted January 19, 2007 Report Posted January 19, 2007 what do they do?: they get hit with hammers! what are the benifits of taking them off?: you get to hit stuff with a hammer! Quote
csrmel Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 i dont see why everyone removes tors. its a good system as long as you keep the carbs synced. it only weighs about 1 pound in parts. it doesnt add much complexity to the wiring. jetting is just as easy with or without tors. the carbs can be tilted sideways in frame so the bowls can be removed for jet changes wihtout even disconnecting the tors. if 1 or more of youre throttles ever stick open, even just a little bit, tors will cut the ignition so you wont lean out one side and blow a piston. it will also save youre ass from running into a tree if the throttle sticks open. and sence banshees are sort of known for finicky throttle systems, it makes good sence to keep tors connected. the other point i would like to make, if tors ever DOES act up on you, (like a microswitch on the ebrake sticking for example) its just a little connector on the black box to disable it temporarely untill you can fix the problem. no tools needed. ive seen a few examples on this board of people without tors who have had throttle sticking problems and gotten into accidents. had they kept their tors functioning properly this wouldnt of happened. Quote
dajogejr Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 i dont see why everyone removes tors. its a good system as long as you keep the carbs synced. it only weighs about 1 pound in parts. it doesnt add much complexity to the wiring. jetting is just as easy with or without tors. the carbs can be tilted sideways in frame so the bowls can be removed for jet changes wihtout even disconnecting the tors.if 1 or more of youre throttles ever stick open, even just a little bit, tors will cut the ignition so you wont lean out one side and blow a piston. it will also save youre ass from running into a tree if the throttle sticks open. and sence banshees are sort of known for finicky throttle systems, it makes good sence to keep tors connected. the other point i would like to make, if tors ever DOES act up on you, (like a microswitch on the ebrake sticking for example) its just a little connector on the black box to disable it temporarely untill you can fix the problem. no tools needed. ive seen a few examples on this board of people without tors who have had throttle sticking problems and gotten into accidents. had they kept their tors functioning properly this wouldnt of happened. Apparently, you don't work on your own bike very often, and have never had a set fail on you.... Too many points of failure, too much crap under the tank and in the way. Honestly, if they were so useful, the after market would be making TORS remedy or fix kits, not REMOVAL kits. Any after market carb is designed better than stock banshee carbs, so...they have no problem with sticking...what's that tell ya? Keeping them in sync has nothing to do with the electrical failures they are well known for... Quote
csrmel Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 i do all my own work thank you very much. keeping the carbs in sync has alot to do with tors because tors measures the slides hight and compares it to the other side. thats how it knows if 1 slide sticks open. (well thats 1 of the ways). if the 2 slides are not close enough in hight at all times it will cut the ignition. thats why i say to keep youre carbs synced. if they go out of sync tors will let you know about it. thats probably what most people have problems with. most people probably dont own a sync tool or dont give a damn. you know whats under the gas tank? some wires and a black box. thats not alot of shit man. the tors boxes on the carbs are not that hard to disconnect and they are not even under the tank. i dont see whats the big deal about 2 wires comming off each carb that have a plug in connector. i know alot of people remove it, but most people dont even know what tors is so that doesnt make sence. i realise that anyone is free to do what they want with the tors, but i feel that both sides of the story should be told. Quote
Bansh-eman Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 the tors doesnt messure the slide heights... the sensor in the throttle housing detects if your pushing the throttle or not... then the tor housing on top of the carbs detects if the sliders are lifted or not... if the two dont match then the tor control box makes the bike cut out .... it a simple bottom its pushed or not... there is no messureing.. Quote
dajogejr Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 I agree keeping the carbs sync'd is pretty important...not sure if it has anything to do with throwing the TORS off or not, I'd imagine they'd have to be WAY out of whack for that. In my experience....they've done more harm than good. The stock carbs flow pretty good, but, their overall design is junk IMO. I've always eyeballed my own carbs. I did in fact purchase a sync tool from Jeff, and through carefully eyeballing my own slides, I was as good as you're gonna get without using a tool. That being said...yeah, it's important to keep them the same...and sync'd. Quote
mybadbanshee Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 What do the tors do? and what are the benifits of removing them? they get in the way,they suck,they look like shit Quote
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