kenkrieger2001 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Hello Folks, I need some advice please. I have a 2002 Banshee, bone stock. I have owned it for 1.5 years and have ridden it regularly. Not hard but definitly some medium to hard riding. Anyway heres the problem. Up to now no problems, other than one episode of the motor starting fine and then it will not rev past idle,,,,this was on a trail system. Altitude about 1000- 2000 feet,I put new plugs in on the trail,it ran the same for about 5 minutes then cleared up and ran the last 4 weeks no problems. - went back again,motor ran fine to put it on the trailor,got to the trail head,nothing but idle, the motor will not rev past idle,just boggs,,, - put on a new air cleaner. - cleaned the carbs twice already, Mr. Mikuni and I are extreemly familiar with each other, i have several 81, and 82 1100 street bikes with essential the same design as on my banshee so I know the carb cleaning dance well. - i did a field strip at the trailhead,thouroughly went thru the carbs, miked the reeds, all good same result, drained all the gas,started fresh with new MC-1 oil,,,still no revs, I was able to get the bike to get up to 25 or so thru the gears on one of the trails by shifting up thru to 6 th,and it made up and around the whole place,I had to work it alot to get it around,but wasn't going to be denied a ride after setting up the whole weekend - plus it cleared up once before - ran it around for more than an hour, still no revs, tried removing the air cleaner,good spark, at least it looks good ,.but the plugs are fouling out quick. - ran the bike the rest of the day like it was and it made it bogging out all the way, - got back home tried it still the same result, no real difference on either side,you ease up the throttle and it just boggs out. - I did go thru a period of pre power band sputters for about 2 weeks and wrote in about that as well, but it cleared up,,,now ,nothing but idle. - its been about 20 years since my last 2 stroker so my experiance has faded with non use. Thx to anybody and everybody. - any ideas Quote
aguita Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Did U remove ur TORS??? sounds like a tors problem to me.. Quote
neilgf Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Check and see if the park brake rev limiter is stuck on.Trace the lead back and unplug it.While you at it if you still have the tors in place unplug both leads on the top of them and also unplug the black boxmounted next to the coil on the left hand side. Let us know how it works out Quote
AirForceRulz Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Check that park brake rev limiter. push the park brake button in pull the handle all the way back and let go hard. If not disconnect that TORS plug on the left side of the nike under the gas tank area it should be a white colored plug. Quote
kenkrieger2001 Posted August 2, 2005 Author Report Posted August 2, 2005 Well thx for the responses, I will try the park brake circuit in the morning. But what is TORS ?? Is this an acronym for the parking brake feature? Just have never heard it before. Trouble free means my learning curve is high, but I do have the shop manual, and will go through that circuit, thx again folks, any direction is a massive plus. Quote
Handyman Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 Well thx for the responses, I will try the park brake circuit in the morning. But what is TORS ?? Is this an acronym for the parking brake feature? Just have never heard it before. Trouble free means my learning curve is high, but I do have the shop manual, and will go through that circuit, thx again folks, any direction is a massive plus. 400052[/snapback] TORS( Throttle Over Ride System) Just like everyone said It definatly sounds like the TORS. The TORS is the the two things that are attached to the top of the carbs and have a nickel size diameter screw on them. That whole entire housing is considered the TORS. The TORS can be real finnicky. The black box under the tank on the left side of the frame is part of the TORS system. IF I was was you I would disconnect the 2 electrical connectors from the TORS housings on the carbs(they will be under the tank as well) Cut the electrical wires from the throttle housing. Once that is done the problem should go away. TORS is a bitch and can cause a lot of problems, nothing major but a real pain to deal with. that's why most people get rid of it. Quote
kenkrieger2001 Posted August 3, 2005 Author Report Posted August 3, 2005 Well you folks were right,,it was the TORS. I checked it out with a meter and the shop manual and it was working till I pushed the throttle past idle, then the switch cut out,,,,,tore apart all the connections and found the one to the TORS control box was fuill of dried muck and small pieces of debris. I still have it disconnected and have left it so. The Parking break switch is no good either but at least it failed in the open position and is not a problem. Can't thank you folks enuff,,,,my Banshee is screamin once again. : : Quote
Toomey Banshee Posted August 3, 2005 Report Posted August 3, 2005 Just disconnect the parking brake as well. It'll eventually fail. Quote
kenkrieger2001 Posted August 3, 2005 Author Report Posted August 3, 2005 Well hold the presses,,,went out after writing my thank you reply, put the Shee back together ran around the yard twice and bam, same thing,lmao,,,I took it back apart unplugged and caulked the parking brake plug so it can 't get wet, L Looks like it was the parking brake limiter after all,,,,this is the post mortem,lol,ran around for the last half hour no troubles. Thanks again. Quote
dajogejr Posted August 3, 2005 Report Posted August 3, 2005 Do yourself a favor, remove the TORS and get a parking brake block off... those two items are under $100 bucks...and will save you loads of grief for the few hours it'll take to put 'em on... Quote
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