RZ350 Canadian v American

[Yaxy]

Guys, I am in the middle of my RZ350 project motor and occassionally I hear that there is a difference between the American and Canadian versions. Does anyone know what the differences, if any, are? Thanks for your help

 

 

Chris

[rocketboy]

dont quote me on this ,but i beleive the stock rz exhaust was a bit more bottled up on the american version and thats it

[RNBRAD]

Here's a link below that should help you identify all the differences between US and Canadian models. I have tons of other links on the motors also if you may need any of those. Definitely better idea's and information on these motors than banshee specific motors.

 

LINK

[Yaxy]

Thanks Guys for the input. WOW RNBRAD that link was awesome. It looks like the differences in the American and Canadian versions are related to Exhaust pipes and intake system due to Emissions. That is cool since the RZmotor is going into a banshee I guess it doesn' matter what type of RZ motor you have. Stock for stock with same exhaust systems both should have equal HP at the crank.

 

Anyone out there have a Ported RZ motor in there shee and how does it compare to a full mod banshee?

 

I have sent some parts to Patriot for the following and are hoping to have returned sometime in late April.

 

Ported, MX/Trial

Head cut and rechamfered

Powervalves ported

Crank trued and welded

Pro-x pistons, (coated) Stock bore/ .10

 

Bolts ons

Rocket pipes

V-force reeds

28 fs Mikuni.

 

I know this set up with my FMF banshee runs good but unfortuntely I won't have the RZ motor into a rolling chasis until next year. So just curious.

 

Chris

[bogart]

Thanks Guys for the input.  WOW RNBRAD that link was awesome.  It looks like the differences in the American and Canadian versions are related to Exhaust pipes and intake system due to Emissions.  That is cool since the RZmotor is going into a banshee I guess it doesn' matter what type of RZ motor you have.  Stock for stock with same exhaust systems both should have equal HP at the crank.

 

Anyone out there have a Ported RZ motor in there shee and how does it compare to a full mod banshee?

 

I have sent some parts to Patriot for the following and are hoping to have  returned  sometime in late April.

 

Ported, MX/Trial

Head cut and rechamfered

Powervalves ported

Crank trued and welded

Pro-x pistons, (coated)  Stock bore/ .10

 

Bolts ons

Rocket pipes

V-force reeds

28 fs Mikuni.

 

I know this set up with my FMF banshee runs good but unfinortuntely I won't have the RZ motor into a rolling chasis until next year.  So just curious.

 

Chris

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well i got a rz motor in my shee.

trails port

34mm mikuni flatslides with dual k@ns

milled head

with rocket pipes

all i can say it shee ripps no doubt.i wanted to do a 4mm+ stroker in her but change of plan.

nice set up hurry up and slap her in a roller

[Yaxy]

I know, I am getting anxious to put it in a roller but I wil just have to put it in my old frame. I want to get everything mounted up, hooked up and positioned where I want it, get her fired up, and ready to go so when I do find a roller or get my new shee I can mount and go

 

Chris

 

Bogart: how does your RZ fare against similar mod shees??

Edited February 22, 2005 by Chris Yax

[bogart]

I know,  I am getting anxious to put it in a roller but I wil just have to put it in my old frame.  I want to get everything mounted up, hooked up and positioned where I want it, get her fired up, and ready to go so when I do find a roller or get my new shee I can mount and go

 

Chris

 

Bogart:  how does your RZ fare against similar mod shees??

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im not really sure i know i smoked some modded shees at the bay.also alot of sleds could always be faster.i still have alot of mods i can do but she rips.i had to put the +12 swinger on just to keep it down when i was on the ice.i would launch in 2nd and up to 5th i had to let off alot because the front was up.i never got a good run with the extended swinger my clutch fryed

[Yaxy]

Thanks Bogart, Good to see that your bike runs strong. I guess I will have to see how the bike runs when I get to that point. I will have to spend some time playing with the gearing and jetting to get it right but I am pretty good at that and looking forward to see how different it will be than my current jetting on my shee

 

 

I have my wiring cut up but still need to figure out how/what kind of kill swithc to hook up and the lighting. I will just have to wait till April when my motor parts come back.

 

 

What did you use to hook your servo motor to the frame. I used a U clamp from the hardware store and it fits really good. Unfortuntealy when I tried to put my FMF's on the plate part of the clamp hit the pipe. I wil have to wait to see if the Rockets will hit when I get them. Just curious what you are using? for the suport?

 

Chris

[broke]

Amazingly, you will have almost the same set-up as me.

 

Ported, MX(Patriot)l

Head cut and rechamfered

Powervalves ported

Crank trued and welded

Pro-x pistons, (coated) Stock bore/ .10

 

Bolts ons

Rocket pipes

V-force reeds

30mm Keihin

 

I can't say how well it compares to a well built Banshee motor, mine was only stock.

 

Here is an opinion from someone who has a VERY good running Banshee, Mrmatt, aka mat.

 

The cheapest by far is to us an RZ motor. I think broke is the resident expert. Minkia was talking about selling his RZ powered banshee a while back, maybe he still has it.

I rode broke's RZ powered quad at Silver Lake. I was amazed. I thought that my motor had a nice broad power band. His was awesome. I didn't even have to shift. It was like riding a four stroke except it sounded a lot better.

 

It really is just an easy motor to ride.

[Yaxy]

Cool broke, we are running similiar set ups. The RZ set up is going to be the same as my current banshee except the shee has FMF's not rockets. I was also pleased when I went to Patriots web site and seen that Dan recommended our set up almost to the "T' for that type of riding. He should be able to make the RZ really move and have a great poweband. It is cool that there are individuals that have insight on what seems to be a rare project. I thank yourself, Minkia, bogart, meat and others who have helped me in the past on these RZ questions. I will just have to be patient and wait till my motor comes back from Patriot who just got the parts today. I stil have some parts to order from Prodesign, a new clutch and the Rockets this weekend. My exhaust flanges are at the welder so I have to check on those and finish shaping the back plate to the exhaust valve gasket.

 

I really want to do a ride report on comparing my shee to my RZ shee on a mod for mod basis but have no rolling chasis, and unfortunately am not really looking for one at this time. May buy a new shee in the summer if 05 was last year and am shopping for a house in the next few months to move in the fall.

 

Chris

Edited February 23, 2005 by Chris Yax

[broke]

No sweat, I am in the process of building a stroker RZ right now, try to find anything out about them. It seems like only a few have tried it, and some are just a little too busy to really correspond much.

 

A +4/+7 12 port RZ seems to be rare enough to consider building. I guess I just like to be different also. The motor really is worth building, if you're going to do it right.

 

The Rockets so seem to compliment the motor well, even though mine was ported for PTR's.

 

As far as mounting the servo, I'm almost ashamed to say it's zip-tied where the tors box used to sit. The cables don't bend that much, so it's hard to find a place where they aren't binding.

 

If anybody is interested in an MX ported set of RZ jugs with a head cut and rechamfered for 100 octane by Dan at Patriot Racing, let me know.

 

Motor runs great, just looking to go faster.

[Yaxy]

broke,

Dan also recommended a stroker but I decided not to go that route. That will be an a heck of a powerplant when your finished

 

Zipties!! That does seem to be the method that everyone is using. Did you try a U-clamp from the hardward store? I set it up on my shee last weekend and put the clamp around the right side of the upper frame rail (this way the cables are pretty straight) up by the coil and mounted up the servo to it. It seemed to be fine and sturdy but when I tried to put my FMF pipe on a small part to the clamp hit the pipe. Hopefully the Rockets will clear it but I haven't ordered them yet. If so I will just modify the clamp a bit or just turn it somewhat.

 

Did yo ever try the PTR's on the RZ. Just wanted to see how they cmoare against the Rockets for the set up you were running. I was going the PTR route at first but I was not going to pay $700.00 for PTR pipes and I thought the Rockets in correlation with my intake mods would make more sense.

 

Chris