First Banshee Ride

[watkins]

Idle'd her for 3 separete 10min intervals with a 20 min cool down between each one.... then i took her out on a easy maiden voyage.. not even 2/3 throttle and each ride lasted about 1 min.... what I did notice was that it bogged down.. I would get her rolling and she just wouldn't go! So i would have to almost pin the thing... let the clutch out and she would start moving... the to get her to accelerate i would have to give it about 2/3 throttle and it would jump up to warp speed but it wouldnt do that under normal throttle movements.... is this normal? This is a brand new, stock banshee. Could the jetting be wrong? I am at sea level. Also.. it sounds like the rear brake is rubbing when i push it.

Edited February 10, 2005 by watkins

[TREELIZARD]

if it is bogging when you first go to take off then try adjusting both of your air screws in about a half a turn or mabe a little more and you should be good to go.

Edited February 10, 2005 by TREELIZARD

[Cotton eyed Joe]

Check to see if the air cleaner is over oiled or plugged too. I've seen the same exact things happen to a great banshee that had the air filter plugged. Ran ok up until it got on the pipe then stalled. It would only rap out if you pulled in the clutch. Cleaned the air filter out for my buddy and it ran fine.

[banshee04le]

Nothing wrong with it you just have to learn to ride it. Get used to that screaming

wail and don't be afraid of it. Your just not staying on the pipe. If you fall off the pipe

or short shift too much you will have to almost pin it to get back on it. You'll get the

hang of it. Just keep the R's up, thats how shee likes it.

[banshee04le]

Or maybe I'm wrong .

[watkins]

Thats probably just it.. takes some getting used to... i am used to being able to rev up just a little... let out the clutch and be able to start slow but still have throttle response to take off like the wind when i wish.... ill just have to tame the beast.... BTW... had to change my shorts after I hit the powerband for the first time.

Edited February 10, 2005 by watkins

[BigRed350x]

I don't know that it sounds like normal banshee operation. I never had a bog like described before the pipe. Mine always had crisp throttle response even in low rpm. Not much power at all, but it wouldn't bog down before I would get on the pipe. I think its probably your carbs just need a little tinkering.

[watkins]

Well, it rev's perfectly when its not in gear. Once in gear it bogs like a son-of-a-bitch and I have to manipulate the clutch so it doesnt die. Maybe my takeoff needs some work. Should I mess with the air screws?

[richybanshee]

Before anything, just in case: if you are running your stock shee without the airbox lid, probably you are running lean every where. For a stock shee at sea level and no aibox lead and everything else stock, temp 75-90 Farenheight.

main jet 280

air screws 1 - 2 turns out from seated

 

If that is not the situation, Test this::

 

1. Take the snorkle off the airbox lid or airboxlid. If banshee runs better 1/8 -1/4 throttle then you are running rich. Try turning the airscrews out 1-1/2 turns.

 

2. If problem persists or gets worst

a. Put snorckle back and turn the air screws in 1 turn and ride it. Probably it is running lean in 1/4 throttle and when you push the throttle 2/3 the jet needle takes a gives it more fuel.

 

3. Check if carbs are synchronized, maybe for some extrange reason they are way off.

 

4. It is possible that you are not used to the power band of the shee. 4-strokes tent to have a wider power band with less hit and are easier to ride, bashee's different.

 

5. Finally, if you are still not convinced then take it where you bought it and have it checked.

 

Edited February 10, 2005 by richybanshee

[watkins]

Just some more info incase it helps.. i will try the snorkle removal thingy.

 

I am running 24:1 right now... justed wanted to have a little extra oil for the first tank. Also... when starting it.... it will not start cold with any choke.... the choke must be closed for it to start and run... does that help at all?

Edited February 10, 2005 by watkins

[richybanshee]

If you live in a place where temperatures get very cold, maybe below 60 Farenhieght then starting the machine can be a pain in the ass.

 

When the motor is cold, the fuel left sticks to the cylinder walls, because of condensation. The choke lets more fuel go in, creating a rich mixture. When the motor gets to warmer temps you can start it without using the choke.

 

Another thing, I mix the gas and oil for a 32:1 ratio. A 24:1 is what the manual recomends but I personally do not like it. I use Klotz SuperTechiplate or Motul 800 racing oil with premiun 92-93 octain fuel.

 

 

Also... when starting it.... it will not start cold with any choke.... the choke must be closed for it to start and run... does that help at all?

 

What this tells me is that you may be way rich in the pilots, something is defenetly wrong. Take airbox lid off and ride it, see if it helps, at least 1/8-1/4 throttle position.

Edited February 10, 2005 by richybanshee

[watkins]

I'll take the lid off and take it for a spin... I am storing it at work right now so it may be a few days until I can try it out.

 

Also.. when I stay it doesnt start with choke... it starts.. sputters and dies.

 

I am currently storing it at my work, so I will try and pull it out of there this weekend and tinker with it.

Edited February 10, 2005 by watkins

[y2kbanshee9187]

Nothing wrong with it you just have to learn to ride it.  Get used to that screaming

wail and don't be afraid of it.  Your just not staying on the pipe.  If you fall off the pipe

or short shift too much you will have to almost pin it to get back on it.  You'll get the

hang of it.  Just keep the R's up, thats how shee likes it.

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That could be it, took me a little getting used to switching from a four stroke quad to a two stroke.

[watkins]

I was also thinking... could it be because I am currently running 24:1 instead or 32:1

[bansheeryder_69]

ill just have to tame the beast.... BTW... had to change my shorts after I hit the powerband for the first time.

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