REALLY NEED HELP, REALLY DISCOURAGED

[sweetshee4312]

guysim trying to rebuild my engine. Its together an di got ti running. Well there is alot of smoke comeing out the right pipe. I took the head off, and put silicone around the gasket. I let it idle for a few, same fuckin way. WTF already. the bolt are torqued to 240 inch pounds. The gaskets new, and all the ones in teh engine are too.... SOMEONE ne one give me something to do. i dont wanna tear this shit down again...im not going to either, i may sell it..... i cant take it, i want to try my new port job....I also noticed when i was breakign it in. it was good and warm i tried to hit the powerband and it was running reallly really rough......Could it be something witht he carb. I dunno if there synced right.PLEASE GUYS I NEED SOME DAMN HELP HERE.......!

[J..J.]

If the smoke is very white and sweetish smelling then you probably have a leaking headgasket as you suspected. Open the radiator cap and let the bike idle, try to see for evidence of combustion pressure making its way into the coolant. another scource of a coolant leak is the shaft seal behind the water pump.

 

240 inch pounds sounds correct, did you tighten in the correct sequence, the sequence numbers should be marked on the head if it's still stock.

 

You could have a warped head, or the cylinders are somehow miss-aligned. The head can easily be checked for warpage by rubbing it on some smooth grit emery paper taped onto a glass pane or surface plate.

 

Silicon won't do shit, once you've torqued the head down once, IMO the gasket can't be used again.

Renew it, but not before you've checked everything. The gasket should come with an "UP" mark, look out for it. When the head is off you should also be able to see evidence of the coolant leaking past on either the head sealing face or the cylinders sealing face. Don't give up, and let us know how it went, the guys here will help you out, that's for sure.

[banshee04le]

Pull the right pipe off and see if any oil drips or pours out of it.

If so, your right side crank seal is bad or not installed correctly, causing the

engine to suck in tranny oil. If there is oil in your pipe, clean it out with kerosene and reinstall after fully drying. Run it again. If the problem (oil in the pipe) re-occurs, you will have to split the cases again and replace the right crank seal. It will be much easier for you this time. Don't give up. Glue the seals into the case with yamabond5 and don't put them in backwards, like I would have if I didn't have a clymers to set me straight. Use yamabond4 on the case halves.

[sweetshee4312]

I will look at some of this stuff....im also woundering, is is bad for my engine???

[sweetshee4312]

ahhhhhh f*ck, i hate bansheeeeees, mine ne way........im thinking of takeing it up to the stealership and haveing them fic it for 500 bucks....im onna try a new head gasket, and if that doesnt work i dunno.....the smoke isnt really tha bad till u rev...then still its no hoooorrrrriiibblle. Its not running smooth either....i cant hit the power band, no matter wha...i cheacked the idle shit thats all the same, and the syncing teh carbs, with those big screws, there both in all the way.....so i dunno wtf to do

[frocashmoney24]

what big screws, i hope u dont have the air screws in all the way

[sweetshee4312]

there are two big like goldish screws sticken out the side, i dont have tors, and there both in, and wha should i do with them... and could this be why its running so shitty

[sweetshee4312]

its not tha much smoke, its also not big puffy white....it looks more blueish... the left one theres liek nothing comeing out....could this be all in my carbs somehow??

[banshee04le]

Did you pull off that right pipe and see if there is any oil in it yet? It only takes 5 minutes to pull that pipe off.

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stock carbs, do you have the choke tube between the two carbs connected? They are new pistons in there I suspect? My engine smoked real bad for its first heat cycle (lots of white smoke), and it slowly calmed down. You should be able to see on your head gasket if its leaking, where its leaking from, it'll look like a wet burnt mark sort of.

 

Do the check with the pipe for the crank seal as well, that smoke will smell pretty gross (if I remember correctly)

 

Your air screws should be like 2-2 1/2 turns out (check jetting faq) I think.

 

You need to sit down and learn your shee and learn jetting and such. A new engine without being broken in wont do anything in powerband except break up and not run right, kinda like when an engine is still cold. Take your time with it and do it right. Find someone that lives near you that knows quads that can help you out. They arent that hard, once you know them, and know how to work on them.

 

Get a clymers manual and read it from cover to cover, even all the bullcrap that doesnt mean anything. You'd be surprised what you learn.

[J..J.]

its not tha much smoke, its also not big puffy white....it looks more blueish... the left one theres liek nothing comeing out....could this be all in my carbs somehow??

 

In that case I don't think you have a coolant leak. Just to make sure, open up the radiator cap and look inside with the bike idling.

 

I'm guessing your problem is less serious, like a carb problem or such, like the "." said

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I'm guessing your problem is less serious, like a carb problem or such, like the "." said

 

I like how you put "the" before my name

[sweetshee4312]

yes, im onan sync them tonight.(cabrs i mean)....also, i rode it around, its so sketchy, like whne i hit the powerband it sounds sick like hahaha....and THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP GUYS! without u im nothing.....lol when i ride alittle, the smokes dies down, but when ideling there is more smoke on the right side

[sweetshee4312]

Well i thinkim onna take it to the stealershi, and trade it in for a honda lol......no im not but i may have them finish this shit already.....i just cheacked the compression.....its 90 in teh left and 110 in the right.... i think the right was leaking anti freeze, just the left is not pullin its own weight, so it doesnt look good..... im so pissed right no wi dunno wha im typing....im gooing to replace the head cgasket, and try again... if tha dont do ne thing...im onna have to pay 45 bucks an hr for labor.....

[MotulMonsta]

You got a good shop manual? That's step #1.

Did you do the rebuild yourself? Did you replace the pistons and rings? Hone the cylinder? Or just slapped it together with all the old parts. Sounds to me that your not giving your bike enough break in time. You also need to brush up on your carb tuning skills a bit. Gold screws on the sides of the carb..that's the airscrew..it should be recessed in the carb body a bit. You should also have an idle screw somewhere's around there..might be on the opposite side. But you have to figure out what your adjusting before you adjust it.