Hockey390 Posted May 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 OMG DUDE! you jsut "sparked" my memory... the ground wire broke and i soldered it back on...maybe it isnt soldered anymore, (came off while shee was running hard???) will go check.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey390 Posted May 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 no go =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefreak Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 so the wire was not it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey390 Posted May 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 another note, i have spark on both sides.... i have only 1 carb (trinity single carb setupd) so i know that there isnt a problem with that.. i am FOR SURE getting fuel... cause I even tried quick start fluid.. solid spark on both ends, i will try new plugs tomarrow.. when I kick it over, it sounds kindof hollow...i dunoo what thats all about, but you know how when you have your plugs out and you kick it...it sounds like that.. i noticed gasoline right in front of the left plug on the head.. is there a seal thats bad?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefreak Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 check all your wires maybe you broke one or unplugged it .. just goe over with a fine tooth comb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey390 Posted May 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 nope, the wire was solid... not only soldered, but also crimped closed.. tomarrow after work i will check ALL of the wires, but i dont see how a bad wire would cause no start... it seems like it has to be engine related. i have the spark, if a wire was bad i wouldnt would i??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefreak Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 (edited) does it kick real easy.. yeah if you have spark wires should be ok if anything it should try to start... just maybe not run if you have a broken wire after the spark...almost sounds like compression then if you spray ether in it and it don't fire...maybe try pull starting it .. if you get going fast enough maybe it will fire...hell might be flooded now maybe you need to take put the plugs and let it sit over night and see if it might dry out??? Edited May 18, 2004 by bansheefreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey390 Posted May 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 will try thaqt.....toamrrow, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfastbanshee Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 I would try pull/push starting it as well. Did you wash it recently? I used to get water in the cdi and it would cause a weak spark for a few hours. Wouldn't start unless I pushed it...no matter how hard I could kick. Finally the cdi stayed this way with a weak spark and then I replaced it. There are ways to test the spark that I can't recall. It should be bright blue and spark with ease (turning over kicker by hand with plugs out). It might also be all kinds of flooded like mentioned before. Either way you should get a compression tester to keep an eye on your top end. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey390 Posted May 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Ya, ive been thinking of getting one... my dad told me not to waste my money on it, but back then I had no reason for it really.. Now I do. Also I left my plugs out all last night, so hopefully it dries out today. As for strong spark, its as strong as its ever been... its bright blue, sparks everytiem i push the lever by hand, there was a little gas on top of the head by the left plug hole and when i kicked it over that lit on fire.. I also noticed that when I took the plugs out, they were covered in gas.. If that means its flooded then there ya go, but I have no idea if thats how its supposed to be or not. So....something else is up, maybe its flooded...who knows. But I will pick up a set of fresh plugs today as well, and then by the time i get home from work it will probably be as dry as it gets. Any other comments are appreciated, i will check back in around 11:00 am EST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 (edited) When you pulled the intakes, how did the reeds look? Sounds like you flooded it, and/or doesn't have the compression to start. Also, STOP USING STARTING FLUID ON A TWO STROKE. If you need to use starting fluid to get your bike to fire up, something is wrong. My guess is that you mentioned you have used starting fluid before. You prolly have low compression. Try pull starting it. but, you need to get a compression guage....... And your stator could be weak... Edited May 18, 2004 by boonman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey390 Posted May 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Not too sure if i did it PERFECTLY... but I only got 100 on the left, 80 on the right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey390 Posted May 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 will i get an accurate reading from what I did?? I had both spark plugs out, put it on the left, and kicked it over.. engine wasnt "hot" like the directions said.. but how the hell is it gonna be hot if it wont start! Another note, after I kicked it over like 5 times (to get the max compression) on the left, i pulled the guage off, and a small amount of smoke was coming out of the hole.. is that normal?? Pretty soon this thread will turn into, who does nice port work =( when i had the head off i looked at the sleeves, they looked excellent! no mark where the piston stops, the pistons looked good.. WHY ME!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelbanshee2 Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 well 100 and 80 means rebuild for sure. Given your head gasket is not leaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey390 Posted May 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 could be leaking.. Is that what the leak down test is for? Where do i get one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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