Milktitties Posted May 9, 2013 Report Posted May 9, 2013 97 banshee. Bought it 3 weeks ago the guy saaid it had the big bore on it. And running k&n eye filters I cleaned them and used protective oil. Did that last week. Rode it pretty good yesterday gave her a good riding.Wet fishing got back jumped on her fired right up no problems. Got a bit down the rode ran outta gas, pushed it back put gas in, fired right up no problems. Let my buddy ride it and I watched him go down the road and the bike started bogging and then locked up the tires and came to a skidding hault. I went up to see what was happening and the kick won't move. If I move the kick back and kinda let off of it and push the kick back again I can get it to cycle down . But won't budge when I try to kick it. I tried to pop start it and nothing it just dragged the tires. Help me please and thank you. The bike wasn't running hot either. Quote
coryv4 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Posted May 9, 2013 some thing might have rattle off the clutch basket and jammed between the clutch and crank gear had that happen twice. Quote
Starwriter Posted May 9, 2013 Report Posted May 9, 2013 Did you dump unmixed gas in it? I tell all my friends, when they get a Banshee, "I'll help you work on your bike, but if you run unmixed gas and melt it down, you're on your own". Easiest way to inspect is pull plugs and look at them. Then pull the exhaust and look up the exhaust port to see if the pistons look scuffed. Quote
J-Madd Posted May 9, 2013 Report Posted May 9, 2013 Did you dump unmixed gas in it? I tell all my friends, when they get a Banshee, "I'll help you work on your bike, but if you run unmixed gas and melt it down, you're on your own". Easiest way to inspect is pull plugs and look at them. Then pull the exhaust and look up the exhaust port to see if the pistons look scuffed. X2. Sounds like it was ran on straight gas. Either way, I bet the pistons are melted. Quote
Milktitties Posted May 9, 2013 Author Report Posted May 9, 2013 I ran amsoil interceptor at 41:1 I was told on this forum to run it like that. It is currently shitty out so I won't have any details until tomorrow. All inputs are much appreciated. Quote
Milktitties Posted May 9, 2013 Author Report Posted May 9, 2013 I pulled the plugs the left cylinder plug is milky brown. The right plug looks whitish pretty sure it was getting hot. But the electrode is fine not warped or melted or anything. Quote
04_blu_shee Posted May 10, 2013 Report Posted May 10, 2013 White is LEAN....Time for a new top end $$$. Quote
Starwriter Posted May 10, 2013 Report Posted May 10, 2013 So, pull the right pipe and I bet the problem will be obvious. Do a leakdown test BEFORE you take the top end apart. Quote
spurdy Posted May 10, 2013 Report Posted May 10, 2013 So, pull the right pipe and I bet the problem will be obvious. Do a leakdown test BEFORE you take the top end apart. X2. You'll have the pipes pulled so look at the exhaust side of the piston. If nothing, check the stator side (only because it's easy and no fluid to drain) then the clutch side to make sure nothing is binding it up. All of this has to come off anyway if you melted it down. Could be the crank spread or something broke in the tranny also. Several things to look at but a white plug does point to a lean condition. SP Quote
Milktitties Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Posted May 10, 2013 Its not pure white it just has a tint. And like I said the electrodes are fine. If it did get hot enough to melt the piston wouldn't the end of the spark plug be melted? Quote
Starwriter Posted May 10, 2013 Report Posted May 10, 2013 Its not pure white it just has a tint. And like I said the electrodes are fine. If it did get hot enough to melt the piston wouldn't the end of the spark plug be melted? No. Now get your butt out there and pull the exhaust. Quote
spurdy Posted May 10, 2013 Report Posted May 10, 2013 No. Now get your butt out there and pull the exhaust. Exactly, It isn't heat from combustion, it is heat from friction due to lack of lubrication from a lean air to fuel mixture. The exhaust side of the piston usually sustains damage first if you displace fuel (oil) with air. The exhaust side is easy to see. You can also check the intake side (which I would do if the exhaust looks good), then check the stator side and then the clutch side as I said previously. If you find nothing after all this, you may be faced with spitting the cases to find the issue. SP Quote
Milktitties Posted May 11, 2013 Author Report Posted May 11, 2013 Went out there and pulled both pipes amd metal shavings fell out of the right exhaust. So where do I go from here? Quote
sheerider11 Posted May 11, 2013 Report Posted May 11, 2013 Went out there and pulled both pipes amd metal shavings fell out of the right exhaust. So where do I go from here?Slap her back together you'll be fine. Come on man, think with your head a little bit. What do YOU think you should do? Quote
J-Madd Posted May 11, 2013 Report Posted May 11, 2013 Pressure test, then disassemble. Your looking at bore/hone and new pistons at the least. Quote
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