THE358BANSH Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 So, I have been wanting to take my stuff to the next level over this winter. My original idea was to get back on my stock frame modification project. In the end, I wanted to have a narrow framed 250R style front suspension, in cahoots with a CR500 linkage/shock package in the rear. Banshee motor, Banshee plastics, best of the best suspension parts and geometry. Obviously that would be a ton of work, which I am not necessarily against. The other option I stumbled upon today was a YFZ swap. A friend told me about a roller for sale nearby, not extremely cheap but affordable. I figure that project wouldn't nearly be as much physical labor, but is starting to get more common. I have never spent a ton of time on a YFZ, so I don't know how I would like the ergonomics of the quad. Then again, anything can be moved and/or modified. Obviously, both projects would be powered by my injected 4mm motor. The suspensions would be around 48" wide and cycle 11" of travel. I am going to look at the YFZ tomorrow and see if it is a huge basket case. That would definitely influence my decision if it was a total mess. What should I do? Evan Quote
06specialedition Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 modified Banshee chassis Quote
wfobasheeboy Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 modified Banshee chassis Evan X2 Quote
THE358BANSH Posted October 25, 2011 Author Report Posted October 25, 2011 id go with a modified banshee chassis... the yfz projects look aweomse but theirs a huge down fall to them... your stuck getting modified or custom made pipes which can hurt performance a whole lot... The pipes aren't a huge problem for me. I have a pretty high set of standards, and guarantee that they would be the nicest set of pipes done to date on a hybrid. I just got back from looking at the YFZ. Its a 2004 model, red frame with white plastics. Most everything is there, it had a rod failure and he pulled the motor to fix it and never got around to it. It could use some new plastics and a little TLC, but he is only asking $400. Anyways, he said he would hold the roller for me until Friday so I had some time to make the decision. I kind of figured more people would have voted? Decisions, decisions...Evan Quote
locogato11283 Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 I would say that with your high level of fabrication skills that modding the Banshee geometry would be more of a WOW factor. Yes, the YFZ swaps are becoming more common and I think you will see quite a few of them next year. You won't, however, see a lot of modded Banshee based frames with upgraded suspension geometry. If I were in your position and had the tools and knowledge at my disposal, I would go for the Banshee frame and leave the YFZ alone for now. Later on if you decide you want to do something different, you know you can find a roller for next to nothing. Quote
BUILDER Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 From following your posts that you have made I would say you should stick with the banshee frame. You obviously are a very talented mofo and I for one would enjoy seeing what you would come up with on a banshee frame. The yfz frame has been done and while it is cool it would be more cool in my mind to see a banshee that a person with the talent had really taken to the next level. Just my .02 Quote
camatv Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 you didnt have a vote to just build an entire chassis. i vote for that. use 2009 up yfz geo front end OR kfx 450 style front end and componets. ditch the linkage completely and use a custom NO link rear setup like the KTM's are OR also you should consider the way a sand car or RC cars suspension is set up and maybe even go nuts and do independent rear with sway bar... 250r style with cr500 rear is so 1990's.. Quote
THE358BANSH Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Posted November 1, 2011 you didnt have a vote to just build an entire chassis. i vote for that. I have finally made up my mind, and that Cam fellow seems to always have something to do with it. After looking at how little of the original Banshee frame I would be using, it is almost pointless not to just build a complete frame. I figure what's the point of a nice cromoly front half when its integrated to a nasty ass mig welded mild steel backhalf. I have all ready modeled the front and rear suspension. Currently everything is at 11" of wheel travel, 7.5" ride height, less than 1/32" of bumpsteer over the entire travel using a YFZ spindle. The frame and steering has been optimized around the YFZ spindle, mainly because it's popular and I own a nice setup now. Anyways, here are a couple pictures to tease everyone before I start a new thread for the entire deal...Evan Quote
BigRed350x Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 I have finally made up my mind, and that Cam fellow seems to always have something to do with it. After looking at how little of the original Banshee frame I would be using, it is almost pointless not to just build a complete frame. I figure what's the point of a nice cromoly front half when its integrated to a nasty ass mig welded mild steel backhalf. I have all ready modeled the front and rear suspension. Currently everything is at 11" of wheel travel, 7.5" ride height, less than 1/32" of bumpsteer over the entire travel using a YFZ spindle. The frame and steering has been optimized around the YFZ spindle, mainly because it's popular and I own a nice setup now. Anyways, here are a couple pictures to tease everyone before I start a new thread for the entire deal...Evan Do I see a funny car in the background? lol Quote
THE358BANSH Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 Do I see a funny car in the background? lol Damn near! It's going to be about as fast as possible for something that still has a body with swinging doors. 6.20s at 230mph will be doable... Quote
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