Assembling Motor - Few Questions

[EZ-GO]

Ok so I got my banshee case split and I have a new crank im putting in. I got all new seals for complete motor and crankcase seals as well. I noticed when cleaning the cases there is a bearing by the clutch actuator arm. When I spiin this by hand it seems a little crunchy sounding and dont want any more trouble when I get this motor assembled seeing as how It had lost the crank rod bearings after a fresh top end build.

 

I searched around a little and seen its kinda a pain in the ass to remove @ replace. Its not froze up or anything just seems little crunchy when spinning. I sprayed some wd in there to see if I could clean it out and it seemed to help a little.

 

So the question is should I replace this bearing.. Where should I get this bearing, and do I need a special tool to remove?

 

Question #2 I cleaned the cases as good as I can here with what I had.. seem pretty clean but I read about guys bead blasting and stuff like that.. is that necessary. I soaked the cases in a tub of gas, and specially cleaned certain areas with acetone. Will this be ok? The inside is all real clean but the outside is still kinda rough.

 

Question #3 I didnt order any trans bearings and am wondering if I shoulda? Everything seems ok and I dont have a ton of money so what would you guys do? They seem fine.

 

Question #4 Maybe stupid question but should I remove the studs that bolt the case together out before glueing cases, or doesnt it matter

 

Im ready to put this thing back together but I want to do it right the first time without breaking the bank, and I thought I ordered everything I needed.

 

I got the following parts,

 

Crank

Crankcase Seals

Full Engine Gaskets

Billet Water Impeller

Clutch Basket Lock Washer

Pankcake Bearing

Chain Break Guard

 

Wondering if Im missing anything before I begin.

 

Sorry for all the questions but this is my first build on my own for the banshee.

 

Thanks for all your help in advance!

 

EZ~GO

[KlotzBanshee]

Ok so I got my banshee case split and I have a new crank im putting in. I got all new seals for complete motor and crankcase seals as well. I noticed when cleaning the cases there is a bearing by the clutch actuator arm. When I spiin this by hand it seems a little crunchy sounding and dont want any more trouble when I get this motor assembled seeing as how It had lost the crank rod bearings after a fresh top end build.

 

I searched around a little and seen its kinda a pain in the ass to remove @ replace. Its not froze up or anything just seems little crunchy when spinning. I sprayed some wd in there to see if I could clean it out and it seemed to help a little.

 

So the question is should I replace this bearing.. Where should I get this bearing, and do I need a special tool to remove?

 

Question #2 I cleaned the cases as good as I can here with what I had.. seem pretty clean but I read about guys bead blasting and stuff like that.. is that necessary. I soaked the cases in a tub of gas, and specially cleaned certain areas with acetone. Will this be ok? The inside is all real clean but the outside is still kinda rough.

 

Question #3 I didnt order any trans bearings and am wondering if I shoulda? Everything seems ok and I dont have a ton of money so what would you guys do? They seem fine.

 

Question #4 Maybe stupid question but should I remove the studs that bolt the case together out before glueing cases, or doesnt it matter

 

If a bearing makes noise or binds at all...replace it now while you have it apart.

 

I replaced to actuator arm bearing when I did mine, it was not hard to do with the cases split. Just CAREFULLY tap it out from the underside with a punch or screw driver and press the new one in with a similar size socket. You just need to keep from scaring the machined surface with whatever you use to tap it out. You can get the bearings from any Yamaha dealer or anyone who carries OEM Yamaha parts.

 

#2 Gas is fine, but I'd be careful with the Acetone. Simple Green, Carb cleaner, and a Tooth brush go a long way. And don't skimp on the elbow grease. lol

 

#3 If you think a bearing doesn't feel smooth and quiet when you turn it...Replace it. They can be a little pricey, but not nearly as bad as what a bearing failure can cost.

 

#4 No need to replace the studs unless they're bad and absolutely need to be replaced. New studs are nice, but you can run into more problems if you break one off or strip some threads.

 

Good Luck, and take your time. There is no such thing as too clean, I treat it like heart surgery if you know what I mean.

 

Welcome to the BHQ!

 

-Ryan

Edited May 7, 2011 by AssWhore

[EZ-GO]

Thanks alot man for your time answering a few questions for me. I will just order the new bearing and be done with it for the actuator bearing. The tranny bearings seem fine so im going to run with em. Also I will keep cleaning the case till I get it where its pretty damn clean.

 

1 More questiion.. Do I need to replace all those little rubber case plugs and other plugs such as water plug and such.. I didnt get these in the case seal kit I bought and am wondering If I should change these.

 

I really dont want to miss anything and I feel I covered most of the bases but am just not 100% sure what else I should replace while im in here.

 

Thanks again!

 

EZ~GO

[EZ-GO]

Shit forgot something.. With the trans and the bearing on the gear shafts.. what should I clean the gears and bearings with? Should I lube them good before install? If so what should I use? Sorry for all the noob questions..

 

Thanks in advance

[bebetekbanshee358]

my best advice for u being that its ur first time get urself a clymers manual.... read it about 20 times so u have all the info in ur head...and like he said treat it like heart surgery.. i clean everything with brake cleaner never had a problem.. make sure when u seal them cases up u have a nice even layer sticking out of the cases all around.... very important........ ive never removed a stud from the cases in my life u skhould be fine.. also make sure ur clutch is working right before u put the cover and oil on lol... truast me i took mines off 3 times in 1hr......... good luck....... welcome to the hq.....

[EZ-GO]

my best advice for u being that its ur first time get urself a clymers manual.... read it about 20 times so u have all the info in ur head...and like he said treat it like heart surgery.. i clean everything with brake cleaner never had a problem.. make sure when u seal them cases up u have a nice even layer sticking out of the cases all around.... very important........ ive never removed a stud from the cases in my life u skhould be fine.. also make sure ur clutch is working right before u put the cover and oil on lol... truast me i took mines off 3 times in 1hr......... good luck....... welcome to the hq.....

 

Thanks, and ya I got a clymers manual. Yes I was a little worried about the clutch basket I havent even messed with the clutch.. took the basket off with all the plates still on it and havnt messed with it since I put it in a bag and on the shelf. So I will deal with that when the time comes.. For now I am just trying to get the case cleaned up and all of the parts cleaned good so I can start putting it back together. Looking like Tuesday or Wednesday now that I had to order the clutch actuator bearing since I didnt see it was kinda sketchy till today. Not to mention I did need the coolant tube c clip and o ring which I didnt have. So can I just soak the whole tranny gear in the solvent without worrying about the bearings and shit? I want to ride by next weekend and this shits killing me.

 

Thanks for advice! Any more ideas or concerns wouild be greatly appreciated.

 

EZ

Edited May 7, 2011 by EZ-GO

[sleeper06]

I allways use assembly lube on forks and synthetic oil on tranny bearings and gears,When you star the bike after cleaning a tranny in solvent hold the clutch in with the bike in first gear for one minute to lube 5th gear pinion,I usually slide gears off rack lube shaft and bearing I have seen too many people fuck there trannies up

[EZ-GO]

I allways use assembly lube on forks and synthetic oil on tranny bearings and gears,When you star the bike after cleaning a tranny in solvent hold the clutch in with the bike in first gear for one minute to lube 5th gear pinion,I usually slide gears off rack lube shaft and bearing I have seen too many people fuck there trannies up

 

Ok so take all the gears off and clean them up good.. do you usually change those bearings if your in there? They seem ok but Im putting a new crank in and dont really want to chance something else going.. and having to rip the whole thing apart again.

 

Thanks for the help..

 

EDIT: Where can I find assembly lube?

 

EZ~GO

Edited May 8, 2011 by EZ-GO

[J-Madd]

Unless the transmission was ran low on fluid, you usually don't have to replace the transmission bearings. You don't have to take the transmission apart to clean it (if it is even "dirty" - which it shouldn't be.) YOu could get by with spraying carb cleaner on it to get any dirt/grit off of it. I just pour whatever oil I'm gonna run over the trans before assembly. When you fill the crankcase up, the trans is gonna be in oil anyway, though. As said, make sure the clutch is engaging and set correctly before putting the side cover on and filling with oil. Its also a great idea to make sure the kick starter is working before filling it up. You can just tighten the bolt on the side cover closest to the kicker, and a couple more then test it by hand to make sure it's working right.

[EZ-GO]

Unless the transmission was ran low on fluid, you usually don't have to replace the transmission bearings. You don't have to take the transmission apart to clean it (if it is even "dirty" - which it shouldn't be.) YOu could get by with spraying carb cleaner on it to get any dirt/grit off of it. I just pour whatever oil I'm gonna run over the trans before assembly. When you fill the crankcase up, the trans is gonna be in oil anyway, though. As said, make sure the clutch is engaging and set correctly before putting the side cover on and filling with oil. Its also a great idea to make sure the kick starter is working before filling it up. You can just tighten the bolt on the side cover closest to the kicker, and a couple more then test it by hand to make sure it's working right.

 

Cool man thanks for the info, I think im just gonna order the bearings for the trans and do it.. another 125$ and peace of mind... So close to getting this thing together though that my patience is wearing thin.. I WANT TO FUCKING RIDE!