Banshee vs YFZ 450

[adamsj13]

Hi all, I'm not sure which one to get. Both are around the same price, 2000. I love dunes, but will probably ride trails sometimes. I don't drag race, but may just against my brothers for fun. I love the power of the banshee but have not ridden them much. I've mainly had TRX250rs and ATC250rs. I have never ridden a YFZ but have heard lots of good things about them. I know with 2 strokes you have to replace piston and rings, do you have to do that to 4 strokes often? I like the idea of just gas and go, with out premixing, but i dont want to base my decision on that. Im looking at 92 - 05 banhsees and 04 and 05 YFZ's. Tell me what you all think. Thanks all

[Phelps]

if you think the maintenance of a 4 stroke is any less than a 2 stroke you are sadly mistaken. a 4stroke is just a little more dumbass proof. most of the guys around here get 5-8 years out of a engine on their banshee, light modded bikes. you show me a yfz that made it that long and i will show you a bike that sat in the garage and was never ridden.

[RadarRacing]

Neither the banshee nor the yfz is the perfect trail bike. The yfz is not more reliable than a banshee by any means and they grenede and cost big bux to fix. If I was trail riding 90% of the time I'd get something with reverse like a z400 or a raptor and either of those are as fast and fun on trails as a banshee or yfz, otherwise the banshee is the fast cheaper and easier to mod bike with unlimited potential.

[2001blackshee]

if you think the maintenance of a 4 stroke is any less than a 2 stroke you are sadly mistaken. a 4stroke is just a little more dumbass proof. most of the guys around here get 5-8 years out of a engine on their banshee, light modded bikes. you show me a yfz that made it that long and i will show you a bike that sat in the garage and was never ridden.

 

 

x2....Phelps

 

. 04-07 yfzs have been knowed for bad lock ups.. im talking cases cranks rods.and everything in peices.. I know from person expiriance... if you get a yfz get 07 or newer... Thats the year they fixed there oiling problem to the cranks.... I'll never buy a 4stroke again... if i do itll be a 4x4 qaud.. I traded my YFZ for a Banshee. and im GLAD i did... Some people say the banshee's ride like shit.. and arnt trail friendly. BULLSHIT.. I loved ripping one trails with my shee.... Dont think a 4stroke isnt any maintenence like phelps said.. your highly mistaken...!!!!

[gotta_goatsfast]

Coming to a Banshee oriented website is going to get you banshee biased opinions. You need to ride both of them and see what feels best. I will tell you that $2000 worth of YFZ probably isn't going to be as clean as $2000 worth of Banshee. Also, any high performance quad isn't going to be without high maintenance. The lack of precision valvetrain components makes a Banshee MUCH easier on the wallet and brain to rebuild. In all honesty, my Banshee is only apart right now because I'm dieing to build up a stroker motor. Otherwise, that motor was still very strong (stock 5 year old engine)

 

PS: if you end up a proud owner of a banshee, you will have plenty of resources right here to help you with all your maintenance, performance, and cosmetic needs!

[adamsj13]

Coming to a Banshee oriented website is going to get you banshee biased opinions. You need to ride both of them and see what feels best. I will tell you that $2000 worth of YFZ probably isn't going to be as clean as $2000 worth of Banshee. Also, any high performance quad isn't going to be without high maintenance. The lack of precision valvetrain components makes a Banshee MUCH easier on the wallet and brain to rebuild. In all honesty, my Banshee is only apart right now because I'm dieing to build up a stroker motor. Otherwise, that motor was still very strong (stock 5 year old engine)

 

PS: if you end up a proud owner of a banshee, you will have plenty of resources right here to help you with all your maintenance, performance, and cosmetic needs!

I think I'll be getting the Banshee, Its 4mil motor, short rod. new rod 10 hours ago, Is this worth 2000?

[gotta_goatsfast]

I think I'll be getting the Banshee, Its 4mil motor, short rod. new rod 10 hours ago, Is this worth 2000?

 

 

Its definatly worth checking out. All I can say is take it for a ride. With a modified motor, you'll want to check the compression and pull the plugs to examine them for proper jetting. See why it needed a rod replaced too.

[DallasGDub]

I agree, a $2k banshee will be a lot nicer than a $2k YFZ. If you are looking for the most bang for your buck, get a Banshee. Saying that, I prefer my YFZ over my old shee. I miss the high high HP.....but man I love the lowend power, handling, and the cushy ride way more. But it is not cheap to pimp out, or easy to fix at all. I have not had any issues out of my 08. I get it serviced on the regular. I think if I rode nothing but the dunes, I would have to get another shee. It is really hard to compare both bikes. They are equal when it comes to pros and cons.

[adamsj13]

I agree, a $2k banshee will be a lot nicer than a $2k YFZ. If you are looking for the most bang for your buck, get a Banshee. Saying that, I prefer my YFZ over my old shee. I miss the high high HP.....but man I love the lowend power, handling, and the cushy ride way more. But it is not cheap to pimp out, or easy to fix at all. I have not had any issues out of my 08. I get it serviced on the regular. I think if I rode nothing but the dunes, I would have to get another shee. It is really hard to compare both bikes. They are equal when it comes to pros and cons.

 

 

I took the plunge and picked up a 99 Banshee. It was rebuilt about 20 hrs ago. Has 86 HP from the dyno sheet. I don't think I have ridden anything with this much power . There is 140 psi in one and about 137 psi in the other. It has been sitting for a bit since he has not used it much, so I will drain all the fluids and refill. With this compression, what gas should I run? He used Redline racing 2 stroke oil. 4 mm stroker, cool head, v-force reeds, toomy T-5 exhaust, Kiehin twin carbs., and swing arm extension. 86 hp on the dyno, Dirt and Sand tires for all four wheels. California Green Sticker. i got it for $2400.00 . I'll take some pics tomorrow. I'll also ask in the maintenance forum about the gas which to use.

[Jereme6655]

California Green Sticker.

 

BAHAHAHAHAHA

[dirtydownunder]

banshee and lt both shit.

what you want is one of these.

[06specialedition]

I sold my 2005 YFZ for my 2006 Banshee...Couldn't be happier.

[adamsj13]

86hp??????? seems a little fishy.

 

 

 

He had the dyno sheet of it. But I'll have it done myself and know for sure.

[donkeypuncher]

congrats on the buy homie, sounds like you got yourself a runner!

 

 

86hp??????? seems a little fishy.

 

sounds believable to me...

[lms1977]

Congrats on the new ride you can't go wrong with a shee.