bansheeboy44 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Hey all- Just got back into the 2 stroke game and just picked up an 06 unported 4 mil cheetah cub. It has all the typical goodies including 35mm carbs, but the previous owner chose not to have it ported. I'm just wondering what kind of HP i am pushing on this so i can determine what paddles I'm going to buy. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks and glad to be BACK!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanYE west Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 alot more info is needed on the setup to give you a ball park figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLORYDER Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Hey all- Just got back into the 2 stroke game and just picked up an 06 unported 4 mil cheetah cub. It has all the typical goodies including 35mm carbs, but the previous owner chose not to have it ported. I'm just wondering what kind of HP i am pushing on this so i can determine what paddles I'm going to buy. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks and glad to be BACK!!! 77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheeboy44 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 alot more info is needed on the setup to give you a ball park figure The previous owner said it had the castings cleaned up and cases to match, timing +5, vforce 3, in-frame sheares, and will be riding in glamis/gordon's well. Again- just trying to get a ball park HP # so i know how many paddles to run etc, since it will be a duner 90% of the time. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLORYDER Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 The previous owner said it had the castings cleaned up and cases to match, timing +5, vforce 3, in-frame sheares, and will be riding in glamis/gordon's well. Again- just trying to get a ball park HP # so i know how many paddles to run etc, since it will be a duner 90% of the time. Thanks compression? fuel? If you're running meth and high compression you can run alot more paddle than pump gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 75 to 90. My 4 mil cub on gas with Vforce reeds, lots of timing and compression with stock carbs and T5 pipes pulled 85 HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheeboy44 Posted July 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 75 to 90. My 4 mil cub on gas with Vforce reeds, lots of timing and compression with stock carbs and T5 pipes pulled 85 HP. Unported as well? nice numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheeboy44 Posted July 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 compression? fuel? If you're running meth and high compression you can run alot more paddle than pump gas It's on 110, but not sure of the PSI- i've only had it since Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Unported as well? nice numbers Yep, just casting flaws cleaned up by Jeff @ FAST. Race fuel, of course. I put 35PWK and inframe shearers on later, never dyno'd it again. Too much for a stock tranny and stock clutch (wouldn't shift for shit) in the dunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheeboy44 Posted July 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Yep, just casting flaws cleaned up by Jeff @ FAST. Race fuel, of course. I put 35PWK and inframe shearers on later, never dyno'd it again. Too much for a stock tranny and stock clutch (wouldn't shift for shit) in the dunes. Thanks for the information and guestimate- it's much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbirdshee Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 75 to 90. My 4 mil cub on gas with Vforce reeds, lots of timing and compression with stock carbs and T5 pipes pulled 85 HP. just wondering where abouts were you at on your jetting with the stock carbs. i will have around the same setup but with inframe shearers and just wondering where i should start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesw Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 75 to 90. My 4 mil cub on gas with Vforce reeds, lots of timing and compression with stock carbs and T5 pipes pulled 85 HP. whos dyno was that on???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 just wondering where abouts were you at on your jetting with the stock carbs. i will have around the same setup but with inframe shearers and just wondering where i should start? Sorry...just saw this. Believe it or not, I had 32.5 pilots on the dyno and 350 mains. Bike ran crisp...but I only went on one or two rides like that until I got my 35s and Shearer inframes. Wes...it was at DynoEdge in Clarkston MI. John Q's shop is the standard around here. Neal at Saber Racing literally has thousands of dyno runs there, and guys that get A&S, RDZ, etc. motors take them there to run 'em. He's not as open to the public as he was before, now it's more of a friend/word of mouth dyno, but he's still around. He is a more conservative dyno...I know Dan @A&S dyno read a little higher than DynoEdge. Here's the dyno chart from my 4 mil on gas, stock carbs and T5 pipes. Lane from Vito's was there when it made the pull, he couldnt' believe it. The pull that is all broken up is due to flywheel with broken magnets. It was all sealed up and it acted like that on the dyno. We took the flywheel off and it sounded like a salt shaker inside. Replaced it...and here you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbirdshee Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Sorry...just saw this. Believe it or not, I had 32.5 pilots on the dyno and 350 mains. Bike ran crisp...but I only went on one or two rides like that until I got my 35s and Shearer inframes. wow! That's impressive, but I dont think I will get away with that small of jets, considering last time I went out I was running 320's on a stock stroke/cylinder. With no porting whatsoever, and I was still running a little on the lean side (pending the time and temperature of the day). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 wow! That's impressive, but I dont think I will get away with that small of jets, considering last time I went out I was running 320's on a stock stroke/cylinder. With no porting whatsoever, and I was still running a little on the lean side (pending the time and temperature of the day). I only ran 330s or so on my stock cylinder as well. A ported motor can pull more fuel thorough the same size jet if done right. (By more I don't mean amount per hole, I mean it will pull fuel earlier and later...meaning more volume) I don't know if I described that right...or worded it correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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