fcobra429 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 This weekend my buddy was ridding my brand new built 4 mill 430. He says he pulled in the clutch while coasting down banshee hill at winchester when the clutch lever pulled back against him, he came to the bottom oil is burnt gray purple color clutch lever is stiff you can shift it thru all the gears but the clutch is stuck engaged. I took out the plates they looked good, didnt have the tools there to take the basket off. Does this sound like a welded bearing or something came off and jammed? Quote
ClimbAnyHill Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 Every banshee should run a pancake bearing to prevent ball bearing & push rod seizure. Sounds like that's what happened here. That bearing should come out very easy, if welded together you might need to split the cases. Let us know what you find. Quote
Scotty Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 Every banshee should run a pancake bearing to prevent ball bearing & push rod seizure. Sounds like that's what happened here. That bearing should come out very easy, if welded together you might need to split the cases. Let us know what you find. X2, Just recently happened to me, luckily it was on the pressure plate side. Replaced with the upgraded pancake bearing. Quote
fcobra429 Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Posted June 2, 2010 Thanks for the quick replies, ill dig into it today after work and let you all know what i find. Quote
fcobra429 Posted June 9, 2010 Author Report Posted June 9, 2010 Is the bearing behind the adjuster screw? cause if not i didnt have one in there. Should the screw come right out mine is snagging on something, it looks bent a little? Quote
Scotty Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 Are you talking about the Push rod behind the Pressure plate? The stock set up does not come with a pancake bearing that is why they fail. Quote
fcobra429 Posted June 9, 2010 Author Report Posted June 9, 2010 Yes the push rod with the phillips head. Should i not try taking it out with vise grips? Quote
pondtunes Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 Yes the push rod with the phillips head. Should i not try taking it out with vise grips? I Think you're looking in the wrong spot... The push rod is behind the clutch boss, it's the large round cap over the clutch plates that is held in by the large phillips head screws & springs. There is a phillips head screw dead center of this, for adjusting the clutch. Remove the clutch boss by taking out the bolts with the springs behind them then the clutch boss will slide off. The pushrod / ball that is notorious for welding together is directly behind the phillips screw in the center of the clutch boss. Once you get the clutch boss off you'll see a large 32 mm (i think) nut that holds the clutch basket on, there is a hole in the center of this shaft.. THAT is where the pushrod/ball lives. Once you can see the end of the hole try moving the clutch actuator arm (where the clutch cable connects to the engine) and see if you can dislodge it. A strong magnetic pick up tool might pull them both out if it isn't seized up in there. Sorry for the crappy photo but here see the six bolts and one in the center? Take the six bolts with springs out and that whole thing comes off. The screw in the center is the adjuster, dont mess with it right now. The pushrod/ball will be right behind it. Quote
pondtunes Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 Is the bearing behind the adjuster screw? cause if not i didnt have one in there. Should the screw come right out mine is snagging on something, it looks bent a little? Again.. Don't mess with the adjusting screw, just take the entire clutch boss off. And don't try to vice grip it out. Quote
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