blast off Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Hi guys, I have a little situation with my carbs. I bought a set of stock carbs from CLIMBANYHILL with the TORS removed and K/N pods and 310 jets on it thats all, the needles were really high so I lowered them, I think they are at the second position from the bottom now, the problem that i am having is that it smokes great on the left side but barely any from the right. I am not sure why because everthing is exactly the same on both carbs. Has anyone ever had this problem before? Can you guys give me some pointers or tips on what they think the problem could be? Any help is greatly apprecited. Thanks again, Eddie Quote
shee4speed Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 make sure they are in sync.Also do a compression test.Here is a link to how to sync them.Click HERE Quote
fox_forma Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 make sure they are in sync.Also do a compression test.Here is a link to how to sync them.Click HERE WHat was your reasoning for dropping the clips on the needles? You said they looked high so you dropped them, did you run it the way they were sent to you? Also with proper jetting you shouldn't be getting a lot of smoke. Banshee's will smoke a little just because they are a 2stroke but a lot of smoke isn't a good thing. How does it smoke when on the throttle? At idle your air screw controls the lean or rich condition on the circuit. Check to see if adjusting either one will level out the smoking issue on either side. Quote
blast off Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Posted October 22, 2009 make sure they are in sync.Also do a compression test.Here is a link to how to sync them.Click HERE Thanks for the link speed, I need to buy the sync tool, that could be the problem, do you know where i could get one of those? Quote
blast off Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Posted October 22, 2009 WHat was your reasoning for dropping the clips on the needles? You said they looked high so you dropped them, did you run it the way they were sent to you? Also with proper jetting you shouldn't be getting a lot of smoke. Banshee's will smoke a little just because they are a 2stroke but a lot of smoke isn't a good thing. How does it smoke when on the throttle? At idle your air screw controls the lean or rich condition on the circuit. Check to see if adjusting either one will level out the smoking issue on either side. Thanks for the reply Fox, The reason that I lowered the needles is because the slides were way more open than the stock ones which diddnt seem correct to me, but I tried the carbs as is anyways and it was smoking too much on the one side and too little on the other, so thats when I decided to lower the needles down to bring the slides closer to stock, it did the same thing. so I adjusted the cables on the tops of the carbs and same thing again, I tried the idle air screws too and it is still smoking more on the right side, (sorry i made a mistake in the post, the right is smoking more than the left) the bike idles pretty good but for some reason its still smoking more on the right side and little on the left, do you think I messed up by lowering the needles? do you think that 310 mains are too big? what position should the needles be at? Sorry for all the questions but I just want this thing to run right so I CAN RIDE! lol, thanks for all of your help. Quote
shee4speed Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 moving the needles around isn't going to change the slides.Is the smoke white?How is your oil level?Sometimes when the right side is smoking alot you have a bad seal. Quote
blast off Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Posted October 22, 2009 moving the needles around isn't going to change the slides.Is the smoke white?How is your oil level?Sometimes when the right side is smoking alot you have a bad seal. oh ok, I thought that the needle position would open or close the slides more or less (geuss i was wrong), yes the smoke is white, my oil level is good, which seal would effect that? oh and i forgot to mention from your last reply that I checked compression and it is at 110 which should still be ok i think. the bike ran fine before i put these carbs on so im pretty sure its something with the carb adjustments, what do you think? Quote
fox_forma Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 oh ok, I thought that the needle position would open or close the slides more or less (geuss i was wrong), yes the smoke is white, my oil level is good, which seal would effect that? oh and i forgot to mention from your last reply that I checked compression and it is at 110 which should still be ok i think. the bike ran fine before i put these carbs on so im pretty sure its something with the carb adjustments, what do you think? Just curious but how does the shee run when hammering into the throttle? Is there a chance you mixed up the slides? I assume you had stock carbs originally and swapped out for the non tors set-up? If so what was your jetting on the ones you pulled? Was it identical? You need to get back to basics if everything was fine and all you did was swap out the carbs. Pull them apart and clean them out real well, make sure both are jetted the same, float heights the same, slides installed correctly and your air box or whatever air filter set-up you are running is clean and tight. You can sync your carbs going by your eye for the most part, make sure both slides are completely seated into the jets with the needles and slowing tighten them up on each side till you get even pull from your throttle and they both lift at the same time. You don't want to raise them up to much but should be able to get a base just doing it by eye. I would also set your needles back to stock position and go from there. Quote
blast off Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 Just curious but how does the shee run when hammering into the throttle? Is there a chance you mixed up the slides? I assume you had stock carbs originally and swapped out for the non tors set-up? If so what was your jetting on the ones you pulled? Was it identical? You need to get back to basics if everything was fine and all you did was swap out the carbs. Pull them apart and clean them out real well, make sure both are jetted the same, float heights the same, slides installed correctly and your air box or whatever air filter set-up you are running is clean and tight. You can sync your carbs going by your eye for the most part, make sure both slides are completely seated into the jets with the needles and slowing tighten them up on each side till you get even pull from your throttle and they both lift at the same time. You don't want to raise them up to much but should be able to get a base just doing it by eye. I would also set your needles back to stock position and go from there. Hi Fox, when I hammer the throttle it revs up pretty good, its revs fast with quick response it just smokes on the one side. As for mixing up the slides anything is possible but I got them like that and diddnt swap them at any time, I bought them from "climbanyhill" if you know him, he seems pretty knowledgeable so I dont think that he mixed them up but I will check anyways, I did have the stock carbs on before and these now have the TORS removed, The stock ones had stock jetting. I will pull them back off and double check everything. what is the stock position of the needles? P.S. your bike looks sick! Quote
fox_forma Posted October 26, 2009 Report Posted October 26, 2009 Hi Fox, when I hammer the throttle it revs up pretty good, its revs fast with quick response it just smokes on the one side. As for mixing up the slides anything is possible but I got them like that and diddnt swap them at any time, I bought them from "climbanyhill" if you know him, he seems pretty knowledgeable so I dont think that he mixed them up but I will check anyways, I did have the stock carbs on before and these now have the TORS removed, The stock ones had stock jetting. I will pull them back off and double check everything. what is the stock position of the needles? P.S. your bike looks sick! I believe the stock position is the 3rd clip. What do you have done to your shee? If you were running stock jetting and went with these carbs with the 310 and possibly different pilots, chances are your far off from where you need to be in regards to jetting. Is your bike stock or are you piped + extras? Quote
blast off Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Posted October 27, 2009 The only engine mod I have on the bike is full FMF fattys and k/n pods. The reeds are stock. You think the jets are too big? Quote
fox_forma Posted October 28, 2009 Report Posted October 28, 2009 your prob alright with the main jets, any ideas what the pilots are? What is the weather like where you are at? Do you have any pics of how much it is actually smoking? Sometime you just can't do anything about a little smoke. Quote
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