Anywhere to get a crank seal retainer

[toddyfresh]

I got a banshee and it needed a crank oil seal on the right side i took it all apart and then read how you should split the case top put it in.. I didnt split the case i used a seal pusher and it seemed to go in fine.. But anyways for future refences I was wondering if anyone knew where i could get a seal retainer for them or if they even sell them?

[AKheathen]

umm.....huh? you mean a seal driver? piece of pipe, or deep socket if you are around tractor or heavy equipment tooling

 

 

o, wait, that's the pto side. just any socket that fits the bore with just a little play

[toddyfresh]

i got the seal in i was talking about a retainer that holds the seal in.. wondering if they made them or not

[bansheesandrider]

The only seal retainer that I know of is the rib that is in the center of the stock seal and fits in the groove in the case. I would plan on splitting your cases as soon as possible and installing the seal the correct way. All the mechanics I have talked to say that the way that you did it is a short term repair to get through a weekend or a race. Any GOOD aftermarket seal for a Banshee, not a universal seal, should have the rib on it as well. Good luck.

[toddyfresh]

I honestly don't see y u need to split the case I know the rib on there and stuff but it's just like a seal on a car tranny and u don't have to split tranny on car I guess I'll see what happens

[crustydemon]

I wouldn't wait to see what happens if I were you, I'd split the cases and put it in correctly. I would think all your going to do is damage the outside of the seal if you pound it in, that rib is the retainer.

[toddyfresh]

i didnt pound it in i started it then used the nut from the shaft with washers and it pushed it right in.. its flat and looks just as good as the old one.. can anyone else give me input on this!!

[AKheathen]

well, it is NOT like the seal on your car tranny. the tranny output is similar, though. the one on your car uses the red, green, or blue coating on the outter metal part as the retaining compound/sealant. would you try to replace a pan gasket without removing the pan? look @ it this way=- 1/2hr, and you got a good look @ your bearing clearances, and potentionally find a problem that could total the motor. otherwise you will be wondering if it will leak again, or why it leaked in the first place. did it really just wear out, or was it damaged by something bigger? you can't always feel a bad bearing just by trying to move the shaft, unless at least 3 are bad, or the crank is separating. get in there and be done with it bro.

[toddyfresh]

clutch plates broke and got caught in between gears and ripped seal.. be honest i dont really know what im doing when it comes o splitting case.. i took the clutch basket and gears off too. do they just go on anyway dont have to line up with nothing and how do i align the clutches the manual dont show much at least the one i downloaded..

[AKheathen]

unless you pay for the full download, it doesn't show everything, on purpose. i've doe other clutches too, so i don't remember, but i belive it's 1's on the outside and 2"s in between or visa-versa. count the steels, i don't remember if there was one against the pressure plate, before the fibre plate or not. last clutch i did was months ago on a can-am. they could all be the same. pull the motor, which is easy, remove the clutch and stator covers, which you are mostly there, and buy a clymers and a flywheel puller, which should be in stock @ your local stealership. it's pretty much the easiest case to split, just pay attention to the circlips and such when you put it together, and follow the book. it's nice not knowing if your bearings are worn but much worse depending on how you find out. if you didn't have issues, then you likely won't find anything bad, thiough, but you'll have the experience and piece of mind.

[popa_top2000]

Split the cases. I did it for the first time here recently and its super easy. Get a manual, take your time, follow it step by step and be done with it. After spliting mine and knowing now how the seal sits, I don't see how the way you put your seal in would work very well. It has to sit properly in the grooves and you could of easily messed up the new seal pushing it in. You could likley never have another problem with it but its all about peace of mind.