Ieat4strokes Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 Just when im thinking im learning a lil about our beloved shee my local builder threw a monkey wrench in all my acquired wisdom lol... I was at shop picking up oil, water pump seal and impeller and we were discussing all the things ive done since he bored my cylinders a few months ago.... i told him i was gonna do a 4mill with porting soon and be done... he said dont, just do a long rod, it will give me alot more torque and power where i want it for the type of riding we do. he said a 4 mill will scream but the "long rod" will have alot more power down low and basically that a 4 mill dont make that much power over a long rod. he said with this "long rod" i could take off in 2nd with stock gearing without feathering clutch and with no gas.;.. so i was like so dont do the 4 mill then he said he wouldnt. he said"Brad, ive been porting and working on banshees for 15 years, ive done it all up to 18 mill drag bikes" u wont b dissapointed and for trailridng and hillclimbing and the occasional race we do around here u will like it alot better" What the f*ck is he talking about, ive never heard anyone here mention a long rod unless it was for a stroker? Is he talking about changing rod length on a stock crank? I cant say i question the mans skills as a builder because everyone within a 100 mile radius swears by him but i just didnt know what he was referring to. thanks Quote
locogato11283 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 sound like you need to switch builders. that guy doesnt have a clue what hes talking about. Quote
shanYE west Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 After that statement.. I think I'd be questioning his ability.. A long rod does nothing except decrease rod angle.. If your looking for more power.. Get the 4mil crank and port it. You wont be disapointed I assure you. If it was me.. I wouldn't let him port it though.. You can't go wrong with one of the site sponsors. HJR, F.A.S.T or Passion. They all do quality work and have been doing it along time also. Quote
locogato11283 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 i wouldnt let this builder clown put chain lube on my bike.. Quote
locogato11283 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 i wouldnt let that dude put gas in my bike. Quote
shanYE west Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 Would you let him air up your tires?? :biggrin: Quote
Wildcardracing Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 (edited) The 4mil builds more torque in the bottom and midrange, this is what really makes this setup shine for all types of riding. Your builder doesn't know what he is talking about IMO. Any time you increase the stroke you will increase the effective power stroke of the engine therefore building more low-mid torque. Edited March 7, 2009 by slobanshee06 Quote
2001Stroker Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 Dude, a 4mil has a substantial amount of power over a stock stroke. Like Fouledout said, longrods only give less angle on the rods. Thus, decreasing side pressure on the piston skirts to help them not break. And that goes for motors as small as in an RC car, and as big as in a ship engine. You can get a 110mm or 115mm rod with either the stock or +4. Bigger motors can go from 110mm to 125mm. Maybe even more on the monster Banshee engines. Girls like guys with skills, but I would also question his engine building skills after that statement. I think he needs to stick to numchuck skills. Quote
locogato11283 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 i wouldnt let that dude suck on shaynes balls.. Quote
Wildcardracing Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 Isn't this the same guy who told you that there is no difference porting for a four mil than a stock stroke? I'd honestly quit listening to the BS this guy is feeding you full of. He obviously doesn't have a clue about stroker builds, what they involve or how they preform. Quote
shanYE west Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 i wouldnt let that dude suck on shaynes balls.. Thanks for looking out! :thumbsup: :yelrotflmao: Quote
Ieat4strokes Posted March 7, 2009 Author Report Posted March 7, 2009 lmmfao! yall are a damn trip! hahah yea the whole time he was talking i was wtf ever cuz i knew that if it was that great of a thing i wouldve heard about it here... I think he was just trying to get my buisness back because he didnt say anything about a long rod until i told him that i was getting my portwork and 4mill setup done out of state by another builder (Brandon). now i just buy parts from him and thats it. as far as work i wouldnt let him touch my motor after he said theres no difference in the portwork for a stock stroke and the porting for a 4 mill.... i knew then that the assclown wasnt as great as everyone thinks around here. as stated before 2 of the guys i ride with have portwork by him and my stock non ported shee will hang right there with both of em. and if i get the hole shot they cannot catch up. i have used every trick possible from you guys on here to build my stock bike into what she is today and im a real competitior here. its sad really because they swear i have portwork stroker cranks etc because of how good it runs, God forbid i actually do get it done and scream by them like a damn jet plane. hahahah thanks for all the comments and remarks, its just reassurance that i will be going to Brandon instead of getting anything done local. and thanks to this site and Brandon specifically for giving me the knowledge i have and not just getting it done here like everyone else and being dissapointed. Quote
shanYE west Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 God forbid i actually do get it done and scream by them like a damn jet plane. hahahah Just lie and tell them you had it bored out to 549cc's and added a long rod crank. Quote
dajogejr Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 I would let your builder tickle loco's bung hole with a feather, as long as he wore a blindfold and was chewing on a tic tac. But he'd have to use both hands on the feather, otherwise, it'd be like cheating. Quote
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