Just got my first banshee

[00-banshee]

hello i am new to this forum and i have to say it is awsome, but any way i got a 2000 banshee with a .40 wiseco, v force reeds, stage 4 intake with a single carb(it is the trinity cv carb kit), and nerf bars. its to bad i cant ride it, the chian was missing and it needs coolant but those are easy fixes.

 

i have a couple questions

 

1. it has a single carb not 2 so if i buy exhaust (hopefully toomey pipes) how do i go about jetting

 

2. what are some of the other mods i should be investing into

 

3. any thing else i need to no please let me no

[vulvafan537240]

1. jetting a single carb is just like jetting 2. what size carb do you have.

 

2. actually alot of people say that the single carb setup sucks, so you may wanna think about going back to 2 carbs especially if you want more top end. the best mod is porting but if you have stock exhaust, youll see a big gain just from getting some pipes.

 

an adjustable timing plate set to +4 and a cool head are good mods also. but the question as always is what type of riding do you do?

 

3. as far as anything you need to know, youll find that out and some things you dont wanna know on this site. :biggrin:

[00-banshee]

1. jetting a single carb is just like jetting 2. what size carb do you have.

 

2. actually alot of people say that the single carb setup sucks, so you may wanna think about going back to 2 carbs especially if you want more top end. the best mod is porting but if you have stock exhaust, youll see a big gain just from getting some pipes.

 

an adjustable timing plate set to +4 and a cool head are good mods also. but the question as always is what type of riding do you do?

 

3. as far as anything you need to know, youll find that out and some things you dont wanna know on this site. :biggrin:

 

i am not sure if i have the 33 or 35 mm carb

 

i do ride alot of sand but i still head to the trails and i now i want alot of mid to top end power

 

i will be doing lots of all day riding in the summer and it can get over a 100F and i now heat is a motors worst enemy especially 2 strokes, so would a bigger Radiator be a good thing

 

i want to keep it as reliable as possible and i dont need to be the fastest arround but i do want to be fast

Edited January 21, 2009 by 00-banshee

[05.Banshee.SE]

Congratulations man...and welcome to the HQ.

 

Anything you need, if it's pretty general, use the search function on the top right of the page. This is a mostly national (and for many, even international) site, and chances are someones asked the same thing you have before. The search will bring you through all the posts relating to whatever you type in.

 

I wouldn't worry about a bigger radiator just yet. I live in Florida, so I'm running in some pretty extreme temperatures myself. I usually just run Engine Ice coolant. As your bike gets more and more built, chances are you'll want to upgrade. Temperature stickers are cheap, and a really good insurance. :thumbsup:

 

IMO, Toomey T5 pipes are great. They do have a lot of mid to top end pull. They aren't as top ended as CPIs, but they aren't as expensive either. If you do a lot of sand riding, you can run K&N Pod filters. However, they do not mix at all with mud and water. They are pretty high flowing, so it's a good idea to always keep them clean, oiled, and run outerwears on them.

 

You can also port your bike if you want. That's going to make a big increase...especially with the bigger carbs your running, and the aftermarket reeds.

 

You can also get a coolhead, and some domes. This will "keep your bike cooler" (they say, not sure how much though), but the main part is that it raises your compression. After I threw the head and domes on, I had some crazy roosting power through out my power band. Before I had it, I did the exhaust...I noticed I had power when it hit pipe, and at top end...the head and domes kinda smoothed it out for me, and gave me more "punch" throughout the entire powerband. You also need to advance your timing with this mod. +4 degrees, and a $49 timing plate off of Ebay are fine.

 

The single carb is for more low end, you'll want to take that off and get a two carb setup if I were you. When you decide what else you're going to do, that will decide what carbs to run. You can find stockers pretty cheap, but don't get them if you'll be porting soon.

 

Hope this helps. You're definately in the right place to turn this bike into an animal, these guys know alot.

[magz]

where in oklahoma you located?

[00-banshee]

Congratulations man...and welcome to the HQ.

 

Anything you need, if it's pretty general, use the search function on the top right of the page. This is a mostly national (and for many, even international) site, and chances are someones asked the same thing you have before. The search will bring you through all the posts relating to whatever you type in.

 

I wouldn't worry about a bigger radiator just yet. I live in Florida, so I'm running in some pretty extreme temperatures myself. I usually just run Engine Ice coolant. As your bike gets more and more built, chances are you'll want to upgrade. Temperature stickers are cheap, and a really good insurance. :thumbsup:

 

IMO, Toomey T5 pipes are great. They do have a lot of mid to top end pull. They aren't as top ended as CPIs, but they aren't as expensive either. If you do a lot of sand riding, you can run K&N Pod filters. However, they do not mix at all with mud and water. They are pretty high flowing, so it's a good idea to always keep them clean, oiled, and run outerwears on them.

 

You can also port your bike if you want. That's going to make a big increase...especially with the bigger carbs your running, and the aftermarket reeds.

 

You can also get a coolhead, and some domes. This will "keep your bike cooler" (they say, not sure how much though), but the main part is that it raises your compression. After I threw the head and domes on, I had some crazy roosting power through out my power band. Before I had it, I did the exhaust...I noticed I had power when it hit pipe, and at top end...the head and domes kinda smoothed it out for me, and gave me more "punch" throughout the entire powerband. You also need to advance your timing with this mod. +4 degrees, and a $49 timing plate off of Ebay are fine.

 

The single carb is for more low end, you'll want to take that off and get a two carb setup if I were you. When you decide what else you're going to do, that will decide what carbs to run. You can find stockers pretty cheap, but don't get them if you'll be porting soon.

 

Hope this helps. You're definately in the right place to turn this bike into an animal, these guys know alot.

 

 

thank you

 

you said that the cool head comes with new domes

 

what gas do i need to run with them i run 91 pump right now but if i have to go to race gas thats fine i guess

and at what compresion do u need to step up to race gas (100 oct)

 

i will be looking foward to gettin my shee modded

Edited January 21, 2009 by 00-banshee

[00-banshee]

where in oklahoma you located?

 

in north okc/edmond

 

i live right behind quail springs mall

[magz]

in north okc/edmond

 

i live right behind quail springs mall

 

anything over 155 psi id step to race gas,

[vulvafan537240]

i am not sure if i have the 33 or 35 mm carb

 

i do ride alot of sand but i still head to the trails and i now i want alot of mid to top end power

 

i will be doing lots of all day riding in the summer and it can get over a 100F and i now heat is a motors worst enemy especially 2 strokes, so would a bigger Radiator be a good thing

 

i want to keep it as reliable as possible and i dont need to be the fastest arround but i do want to be fast

 

oh yeah i forgot to say welcome to the hq! and i live in se alabama and it gets pretty hot here in the summer too and i still have the stock radiator. get some engine ice like 05bansheese said.

[Invader]

Congratulations man...and welcome to the HQ.

 

Anything you need, if it's pretty general, use the search function on the top right of the page. This is a mostly national (and for many, even international) site, and chances are someones asked the same thing you have before. The search will bring you through all the posts relating to whatever you type in.

 

I wouldn't worry about a bigger radiator just yet. I live in Florida, so I'm running in some pretty extreme temperatures myself. I usually just run Engine Ice coolant. As your bike gets more and more built, chances are you'll want to upgrade. Temperature stickers are cheap, and a really good insurance. :thumbsup:

 

IMO, Toomey T5 pipes are great. They do have a lot of mid to top end pull. They aren't as top ended as CPIs, but they aren't as expensive either. If you do a lot of sand riding, you can run K&N Pod filters. However, they do not mix at all with mud and water. They are pretty high flowing, so it's a good idea to always keep them clean, oiled, and run outerwears on them.

 

You can also port your bike if you want. That's going to make a big increase...especially with the bigger carbs your running, and the aftermarket reeds.

 

You can also get a coolhead, and some domes. This will "keep your bike cooler" (they say, not sure how much though), but the main part is that it raises your compression. After I threw the head and domes on, I had some crazy roosting power through out my power band. Before I had it, I did the exhaust...I noticed I had power when it hit pipe, and at top end...the head and domes kinda smoothed it out for me, and gave me more "punch" throughout the entire powerband. You also need to advance your timing with this mod. +4 degrees, and a $49 timing plate off of Ebay are fine.

 

The single carb is for more low end, you'll want to take that off and get a two carb setup if I were you. When you decide what else you're going to do, that will decide what carbs to run. You can find stockers pretty cheap, but don't get them if you'll be porting soon.

 

Hope this helps. You're definately in the right place to turn this bike into an animal, these guys know alot.

 

 

Sounds like you so the same riding as me! Could be Hot desert/trail and some dune riding. I agree with 05 bansheese with the Engine Ice. I run it and have noticed a slight difference in engine temp. I keep an eye on my temp with a trail tech vapor. A little more fancy than temp stickers.

sounds like the toomie recomendation on here is T-5's. run fatties and really enjoy them. I had a chance to trade for t-6's, posted the question on the HQ and was told not to do it. For some reason, which i haven't figured out, T-6's seem to be a down grade from T-5's.

Good luck with all the upgrades!! i'm getting ready for a timing plate and Coolhead myself! :biggrin:

[00-banshee]

anything over 155 psi id step to race gas,

 

thankyou

 

where do you ride

[peterlocal22]

1. jetting a single carb is just like jetting 2. what size carb do you have.

 

2. actually alot of people say that the single carb setup sucks, so you may wanna think about going back to 2 carbs especially if you want more top end. the best mod is porting but if you have stock exhaust, youll see a big gain just from getting some pipes.

 

an adjustable timing plate set to +4 and a cool head are good mods also. but the question as always is what type of riding do you do?

 

3. as far as anything you need to know, youll find that out and some things you dont wanna know on this site. :biggrin:

i think the single carb is way better than the dual if your running trails

[05.Banshee.SE]

i think the single carb is way better than the dual if your running trails

 

It depends. I don't think "trails" in MA and "trails" in OK are anywhere near the same.

 

Basically depends on if you'd rather have more torque, or more speed.

 

Only way to really tell is to ditch it, and try something else.

 

Like I said, stockers are cheap, and you can see if you like those at all or not.

 

With the 2:1, chances are your bike is looking to stand up on you, especially if you had a low end pipe to match.

 

With duals and toomeys, you're bike will want to run out more than stand up.

 

Find your altitute, and go here:

 

http://www.nossmachine.com/banshee_heads.htm

 

There's a chart that lists the compressions. 155+ is race fuel, anything less is fine on 93 pump.

 

17cc, 18cc, 19cc, etc. are dome sizes. The smaller the dome, the higher the compression.

 

EDIT-

 

Definately do pipes and filter first though.

[00-banshee]

It depends. I don't think "trails" in MA and "trails" in OK are anywhere near the same.

 

Basically depends on if you'd rather have more torque, or more speed.

 

Only way to really tell is to ditch it, and try something else.

 

Like I said, stockers are cheap, and you can see if you like those at all or not.

 

With the 2:1, chances are your bike is looking to stand up on you, especially if you had a low end pipe to match.

 

With duals and toomeys, you're bike will want to run out more than stand up.

 

Find your altitute, and go here:

 

http://www.nossmachine.com/banshee_heads.htm

 

There's a chart that lists the compressions. 155+ is race fuel, anything less is fine on 93 pump.

 

17cc, 18cc, 19cc, etc. are dome sizes. The smaller the dome, the higher the compression.

 

EDIT-

 

Definately do pipes and filter first though.

 

 

 

 

 

i understand what you are saying about ditching the single and trying the duals but do you think that if i went with more of a top end pipe that it will eaven out

[05.Banshee.SE]

I would imagine the fuel/air flow the 2:1 set up provides is choking your bike down towards the lower end--regardless of how the exhaust gases are leaving your motor. It's going to be limited by the amount of air and fuel flowing in. You carbs could be maxed out at "7000" RPMs, while your exhaust will still be wanting more, up to it's "9000" RPMs. I think that would make your bike run wierd too... Like running big bore pipes on a small bore bike.

 

I made up those numbers, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it would hinder your performance, when compared to a dual carb set up.

 

The thing I have learned about Banshees (and almost everything in life) is to spend what is necessary to get the proper equipment. I would just run duals (26-34mm depending on what other plans you have...if it's stock porting, you obviously don't need the same size carb a dune ported bike will need.)