Thanks for helping with the 8 silver frames, MAYBE that is why I gave the engine code but really thanks for your insight. I just want someone with a new, 2001 and up clymers to look and see what year this is. I know my 87-95 clymers had the engine code numbers but this number is not there so I think it is newer. Or if you don't have a clymers you could look at the engine code on your bike if you know the year. If your number is near this number 188641 then it could help me narrow it down.