Sweet1

Have you been to the oregon dunes? what species is going to be extinct? THERE IS NONE, 95% of these trails have been there for 10 years and nothing has changed, EXCEPT WAIT the plant life that the forest service cut down to put fences, OMG. IM going to throw another one at you, alot of the SPECIES of plant life in THE DUNES are not NATIVE, OMG COULD THESE NO NATIVE PLANT LIFE BE TAKING OVER AND KILLIN OTHER SPECIES, yes. IM sure that is the ORV fault huh? A blade of fucking grass? are you kidding me? there is plenty of the same grass, in the Areas that you already cant ride, witch are almost or in some areas GREATER then in the areas you can ride. Lets dig into this alittle bit " Biodiversity on this earth must be preserved" the earth goes threw cycles, like it or not thats the way it goes, live of all forms will come and go, that is what life is, you may not like it, but as time goes on some live evolves, and some does not, some will not make it, and some new ones pop us, DID the dinosaurs ruin the ecosystem, OR EAT THE LAST BLADE OF GRASS SO MOTHER EARTH DESTROYED THEM? no When im at one of the meetings the forest service has and they can show me 1 species in the oregon DUNES that is going to be gone in a area ALREADY NOT SHUT DOWN, not that there is one in these areas mind you..... then you will have a arguement. Give me a valid arguement, tell me these rare species in the OREGON DUNES that need to be saved by shutting down more area,? ecosystems, blades of grass, Obviously you have been brainwashed and need to open your eyes and realize that you cant have everything, " more inconvenient to go somewhere else" " more inconvenient to go somewhere else" SOMEWHERE ELSE? the 104 miles of 108 miles of trails in this area are the last ones left to take before you start taking open dunes buddy......... so ill be waiting for you to start nameing all the rare species only found in the OREGON DUNES IN THESE AREAS so we can plant some of them somewhere else cause im sure they can only grow in sand......

Well i dont know about your area, but the oregon dunes didnt need any work to to ride in 15 years ago, you just went rode and had a good time, just like you should be able to now, there is plenty of rainforest to save somewhere else.

Sure there are idiots that dont clean there shit up, and i dont see it in coos bay but im sure there are people racing threw camps in other areas, but that happens on the streets every day, do we shut down roads and freeways because of it? NO. Give them tickets and leave the masses alone.

Look, Im talking about the oregon dunes, dunes that my friends and I have rode since we were 5-6 years old, trails that look the same as they did 10-15 years ago, witch at the last meeting we showed pictures that there is more vegitation then there was in 1985, As in the same breath the forest service lady said they were WORSE.... You and i say YOU cause you work for the forest service, Have already cut the camping in the dunes back to where half the people that use to come dont cause there is nowhere to camp. Witch in turn hurts everyone in the area in the wallet. now you want to take more. There is no river that is being ruined, ITS SAND... We should be thankful? I use to go ride and camp anywhere i could set up a tent and enjoy the dunes that are in my back yard, now i have to try to beat everyone else to get a spot online when there is not enough, like this weekend i cant go camp cause all the spots are spoken for. Sure there are bad seed but there are everywhere. Every year they try to take more area away with some excuse, When does it stop? these are the peoples sand dunes, and me and my kids and there kids should get to enjoy it..

The forest service is a problem everywhere my friend, it funny that they were put in control of these areas to manage them, and instead of managing they start taking area away, im sure that was not the idea when they were brought in to manage these areas, enviormentalist have been hired by the forest service and are now using it to take riding areas away for what? to protect the sand? the people need to step up and end it before we dont have a chance.

The forest service Is tring to take more area away from rides, For no reason in my eyes, there is plenty of forest to protect, they need to get out of the dunes if all they can do is collect money and shut down area. Some how these idiots have ruined the sand dunes, and now they want more. http://www.dunercentral.com/forums/ohv-news/4501-oregon-dunes-closures.html sign the petition, send a email to anyone important, it time we put a stop to the huggers before they take it all.

7 inch wheel, im not saying any more

Will there be rear race cut plastic as well?

Has anyone tried these on a track yet to compare times against other pipes, anyone that has your reviews, time difference from other pipes would all work.thanks.