My bike had some old dg pipes that were bolted to the frame. This is my first banshee, so hell I didn't know I was missing anything untill I tried to bolt up new pipes. When I searched pipe hangers the dude popped up on ebay , cl,and amazon. Shit looked like he had the market cornered on these. I just wanted them now. I'll let you guys know what they look like. I'd never buy any mechanical parts off him,but after seeing all this......nothing. my buddy was just telling me yesterday that a friend bought some cases from him they were trashed, he did exchange them but wtf.