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I don't celebrate any pagan holidays. Jesus said... (1 Corinthians 11:23-25) 23 For I received from the Lord that which I also handed on to YOU, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was going to be handed over took a loaf 24 and, after giving thanks, he broke it and said: "This means my body which is in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me." 25 He did likewise respecting the cup also, . . . . Besides that, you've got no resurrection if there's no death. You are correct that Jesus fulfilled the prophesies that referred to the messiah but many people don't understand why he had to die and could not have just showed up and then left. You need to have faith in the resurrection because if Jesus was not resurrected, then everything he said was crap and he was just another crazy guy who thought he was special. But this still doesn't explain why he HAD to come to the earth to die. People putting faith in Jesus on Christmas day or Easter is fine but it doesn't change the fact that these holidays are an abomination and offensive to god. There is a very good example of how god treats pagan holidays and those who celebrate them no matter what they call them. EXODUS 32 1 And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him. 2 And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me. 3 And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron. 4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. 5 And when Aaron saw it , he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD. 6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play. 7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves : 8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. And these verses show what happened as a result of them having this offensive celebration... 27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour. 28 And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men. 29 For Moses had said, Consecrate yourselves to day to the LORD, even every man upon his son, and upon his brother; that he may bestow upon you a blessing this day. 30 And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the LORD; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin. 31 And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold. 32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin --; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. 33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. 34 Therefore now go, lead the people unto the place of which I have spoken unto thee: behold, mine Angel shall go before thee: nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them. 35 And the LORD plagued the people, because they made the calf, which Aaron made. So these people were saved from imminant death in Egypt by gods direct intervention on their behalf but because they wanted to call a pagan party with the pagan symbol as it's centerpiece a party to God, he authorized the deaths of 3000 of them and an untold number who died from the plagues. Knowing that God always acts in justice, how could he put 3000 to death for offensive pagan rituals and then not act in justice for those who do the same thing now?

And my point is how can you have a good relationship with someone if you dis-obey the very rules that your relationship is based on? I'd like to draw an analogy that may help explain where I'm coming from. A man who is a General in the army has control over a huge number of soldiers. Some respect the warfare that is being waged and the reasons for it, but most don't. The opposing side {the leader of of which was a former student of the General} has made accusations against the General that he is unfit to rule and should abdicate his role as leader. Since this is a direct affront to his leadership, the General allows time for the members of the opposite camp and his own to see which camp truly has better leadership. During a very decisive battle, the General sends his son to defend the honor of his camp. His son is the second in command and has all the same military knowledge the General has. While engaged with the enemy, the son exposed himself to enemy soldiers to allow his troops to escape harm and provide a warning to the rest of the camp. The Generals troops were overjoyed that their lives were spared and that the warning was given to provide safety for the rest of their troops. 400 years later, the story of this brave soldier who gave his life for the safety of the troops was still being told. By this time the reasons for the battle had become less important to the army since most of them didn't really want to listen to the General anyway. But they didn't want to change sides. So in an effort to bring both sides together, the Generals camp decided to have a day of rememberance for his brave son who died to save his camp and warn the rest. Before the brave son died he told his freed soldiers to remember the day in which he died and appreciate his sacrifice but since these soldiers didn't want to make the enemies upset, and they wanted to make their army look bigger than it really was, they picked the date of a celebration the enemy already had. This date was one of the reasons the battle was waged to begin with. The activities that were carried on at these celebrations were a direct affront to the General and all he stood for. What is even worse, the celebration made only a minor mention of his sons bravery and instead of flying the flag of the General's nation, the opposing sides flag was used. They even named the celebration after a good for nothing fallen soldier of the opposing camp. What should the General think of those soldiers who claim to be part of his army who fly the enemy's flag during a celebration that was one of the reasons he went to war while saying it's a way of solemnly remembering the brave actions of his son? Here's a more modern example... Let's say 70% of bush's current army thinks he's a fool who is too strict or makes unreasonable demands on them but they stay in the army for the benefits. Hundreds of brave soldiers are killed in a decisive battle that save thousands and thousands of their fellow soldiers and provide safety for their families and provide hope for peace for the indefinite future. The remaining soldiers, influenced by the 70% of the army who doesn't want to be there, decide to have a memorial service for the fallen soldiers. But to smooth things over with the enemy, they have the celebration on Saddams birthday and fly the Iraqi flag. They turn this date into a chance to eat little Saddam shaped candies and everywhere you go, there are Saddam's favorite deserts and Saddam birthday cake. In fact they even put up Saddam posters on the front doors of their houses and make it into a day where they sing Saddam songs and go to church for a Saddam day memorial service where the preacher welcomes everyone to the Special Saddam day services. This is such an important day that alot of people only go to church on Saddam day. When the services are over, the preacher stands at the front door and says "happy Saddam day and don't forget to get some Saddam candies for the kids on the way out". A few days before Saddam day, a small group of appreciative soldiers met together on the day their brave men fell and really spent time reflecting on what they have because of the sacrifice of these brave fallen ones. They didn't have a big party, they didn't hand out candy to the kids, they showed honor and respect. And they certainly didn't wave the Saddam flag or have any Saddam cake. With all this being said, how do you think bush should react? Is there anyone in this scenario really showing respect for the fallen soldiers? If rewards were given out for faithfully adhering to purpose of the battle, who would be rewarded?

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Dear Sirs: My Name is Sam LaPeidis, I'm 64 years of age, and widowed. I'm on a fixed income from a retirement pension. I'm a high school graduate and former insurance agent. I rely on my car for volunteer community outreach and trips to visit my daughter 700 miles away. I have recently noticed quite a few problems with your service and parts departments which is unfortunate since I have been a faithful customer since your dealership opened in 1983. Over this time I have come to know many of the employees there. I have had all of my Ford and Lincoln vehicles serviced there and have purchased several vehicles from your new and used car salesmen. On September 8th 2004 I brought my car in to be serviced as usual before winter. At that time I was told by one of the employees that Mr. Bennett from the parts department had moved to another dealership due to the "streamlining" of the parts department. While I was not a personal friend of Mr. Bennett, I was concerned to hear of his departure because I felt he was a responsible person who kept a keen eye on matters involving the stock at your dealership. I was assured by the other employees that the quality of service I have come to expect over the last 22 years would not be reduced. As it turns out, this was not the case. During the winter checkup of my car, a rear brake cylinder was found to be leaking and needed replacement. Since this is not an unusual part, I was told the repairs could be done while I waited. I waited for more than 4 hours for this basic repair because the parts department did not have a brake cylinder. I place the blame for this unneccessary delay on the fact that there is no longer a parts manager to assure that these parts are on the shelf and in stock where they belong. I wish I could end my story here but the problems have persisted. I took my car in again for it's spring checkup just 2 days ago and the water pump was found to be making a noise that would indicate it may go out. As you know I am very concerned about reliability so I authorized replacement of the water pump, all new hoses and belts and thermostat. Here again, the lower hose needed to be brought in from a supplier for a minimum 4 hour wait and the water pump was a next day order. Unfortunately I feel that the term "service" is something that is severely lacking at your dealership and I have come to question your ability to deliver the quality service I have come to expect. In the future I earnestly hope that you rehire Mr. Bennett or someone else who is similarly qualified to care for the simple parts that should be IN STOCK and available for immediate installation. If your budget no longer allows the expense of this additional employee, I suggest that your dealership and the one in Highland Park {which is only a 1/2 hour drive away} work together to have the standard parts that you both may need. Perhaps by each of you stocking only 1/2 of the parts that are needed on the shelf at any given time, you both may reduce the space needed and keep the employee requirements to a minimum. I sincerely hope that you make these needed changes to keep me as a customer. Thank You Sam LaPeidis I could tell you the rest of this guys life story too... just let me know

rjv you missed the point I am asking. The celebration of Easter is a pagan holiday and so is Christmas. They have nothing to do with Jesus, they were immoral holidays that were re-arranged to make them sound Christian. You are also missing the point here with this statement. The example you gave was for people who ate foods that were available for sale at pagan temples. Eating foods sacrificed to idols was a sin but these temples would open stores or restaurants near the temples to sell off the foods that were not yet offered to the pagan gods. Since these foods were clean, a Christian could rightly purchase them or eat at one of these restaurants. But to the weak person who was struggling to leave false worship, seeing a person who claimed to be a christian eating at a temple restaurant may stumble them. The person without a complete knowledge or a weak conscience may not see that it is OK to buy these foods. Thus verse 7 says... 7 Nevertheless, there is not this knowledge in all persons; but some, being accustomed until now to the idol, eat food as something sacrificed to an idol, and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. The reasoning continues in verses 8-13 8 But food will not commend us to God; if we do not eat, we do not fall short, and, if we eat, we have no credit to ourselves. 9 But keep watching that this authority of YOURS does not somehow become a stumbling block to those who are weak. 10 For if anyone should see you, the one having knowledge, reclining at a meal in an idol temple, will not the conscience of that one who is weak be built up to the point of eating foods offered to idols? 11 Really, by your knowledge, the man that is weak is being ruined, [your] brother for whose sake Christ died. 12 But when YOU people thus sin against YOUR brothers and wound their conscience that is weak, YOU are sinning against Christ. 13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat flesh at all, that I may not make my brother stumble. As you can see in verse 10, eating foods offered to idols is something you would NOT want to induce someone to do since it is wrong in God's view. So since Easter and Christmas are still pagan, it goes beyond an issue of whether or not someone is stumbled by a personal decision between one decision that is right and another decision that is right but may stumble someone who is weak. It is whether your behaviour is directly offensive to God who hates pagan rituals or not. I enjoy this interchange and hope that you are not offended by my reasonings. Which part??? I enjoy explaining

Christmas may be celebrated in good spirit but it doesn't mean it is approved by God. It may be a recognition of the birth of Jesus but there is not only no record of Jesus celebrating a birthday or any other faithful bible character celebrating a birthday but the date that that the celebration is on is also the date of a pagan ritual. {see gixxers second comment about the solstic}. So in fact, Jesus never had anything to do with christmas. The only thing that Jesus did tell people to remember is the date of his death. I don't remember seeing the word faithful in the pledge. You pledge allegience to the flag. What does that mean? It is not a simple expression of faith in God or it would say "I pledge allegiance to God and I will remain faithful to the flag". If you are relying on God, you don't need the flag, unless you think that God is also the one directing your flag or your nation. And even with that you don't need the flag.

How can you pledge allegiance to the flag and be a nation under God at the same time? They are 2 entirely different entities on opposite ends of the spectrum.

I rarely forget to proof read. What I meant was Jesus never had anything to do with Christmas and never was a part of Christmas AND The idea that God supports the pledge of allegiance is ridiculous and goes against the bible itself.

Discussion is the best. It should serve to expand the mind. It helps a person decide if what they think is right or help them re-confirm what they think is right and perhaps help others see their point of view. That being said, Jesus never was in Christmas and God and the pledge of allegiance is a complete oxymoron.

The reason for the death and resurrection of Jesus is not beyond the grasp of children. The theology of the bible is simple and understandable by all. In fact there are the examples of many children right in the bible who not only understood the teachings of the bible but were able to defend that understanding to adults who didn't have as good an understanding. Perhaps you think that to bring children joy you should lie to them about the Easter bunny and Christmas etc. afterall what a shame it would be to teach a kid from youth to be honest and stand up for reality

Are you looking at it from a human point of view or from God's point of view?

So it started pagan, was still the same holidays in purpose but the characters were modified to make "christians" think it was different or to make pagans un-christian behaviour acceptable and now the hoiday's are back to their original pagan purpose. So should a christian do it or not?

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I think Rocky Mountain has a clamp on for the Blaster but it's almost impossible to find that stuff online. Try to look in the printed catalog. I am parting out a 2002 Blaster so let me know what you need. I'm pretty sure that the banshee and blaster ends are the same.

gixxer and rj you both answered well So then knowing that easter is a pagan fertility ritual, should a Christian celebrate it?

87 I think the guy gets drunker with each drink he makes on that bottle

rj... How do you explain the thought above with what is found at James 2:19... 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. What does it mean to "believe"? I'm also curious what eggs and bunnies have to do with Jesus? Just want to get your thoughts

And they say that Banshees are unreliable

The Banshee bushings are metric so you're kinda outta luck there. Send me an email and I can try to get you what you need... [email protected]

A pregnant 14 year old who sneaks out to get an abortion and whose mother gets arrested trying to stop it. hmmmm There are so many ways this thing is wrong. 14 year old with enough freedom to have sex with anyone parent not giving the child enough life skills to avoid screwing this guy guy who was also given too much freedom or not raised well enough to know that screwing around when your 14 {or worse yet older than 14 and screwing some 14 year old child} daughter just trashy enough to think that killing the baby she made is a resolution to her stupidity. her friends "mom" is stupid enough to act like she is related to the girl so she can go get the fetus scraped out. And if the guy was any older than the girl he should have his balls sawed off with a rusty hacksaw blade and the parents should be publicly flogged. While I' pontificating, there is no such thing as a "doctor" who performs an abortion. Doctors must preserve life.

This swingarm is made for the Laeger Banshee frame it's not just a Laeger swingarm. I was contacted by one guy who says there were on about 2 dozen Banshee Laeger frames made ever and most of them are in the UK for some reason. As it stands, this swingarm is either worth alot or almost nothing. So I'd like to hear from anyone with a Laeger frame no matter where they are.

I've got this Chrome Laeger -2 Banshee swingarm but it is made for the Laeger frame. I heard that the Laeger frames were only produced for a short time and thus very few were made. I want to talk to anyone with a Laeger Banshee or Laeger 250R in the US or around the world.

Here's what I do... http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38289

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