the raptor is alot heavier, i was just readin a comparison in ATv sport the other day, they had the pooplaris 525, ktm 525 and raptor 700, they weighed them all with the right amount of oil in them and only 1 gallon of gas in each: raptor 700=428 lbs, pooplaris=391, ktm=368, 60 pounds lighter is a huge difference! the ktm sounds like its gona be one nasty quad, all these tests they did though all 3 were pretty dam close, they are talkin about tenths , in some cases hundredths of a second in 0-60 runs and 660 foot races and stuff like that, so maybe you can give us an unbiased opinion, we all know how the magazines arnt always 100% truthful