how do you figure?look at guetter like im not saying im anywhere near as good as him but first time out he hucks it into snow and doesnt get hurt whgen 3 times he bailed? and then august, creech, and wes all tried it into a foam pit. im not looking to land the backflip i just want to go out there and try it maybe get the sport that much further and to say that i tryed a backflip on a quad.