Lepew I like the clean look. I figure I have about 300$ into my arms and thats Needle bearings,heims,uni-balls, steel and tie rods. plus the custom made parts I made myself or had made for free. I figure the set I made is about the same as the roll design arms, so guessing I saved about 1k. I'd love to go into production but the liability is what is holding me back. I will get some pics today and try to get them sent or loaded.