yep the tors are unpluged ...they key was removed when i got it . parking break where is the plugin for that? i'v seen in post that it will cause prob. but for some reason i have never checked it (duh) . it started fine after pull startin it road for cpl hrs and it did it again so its gotta be somthing to do with fire cdi,stator,coil or parking break . thanks for the reply . dont no what i would do if i never found this site keep up the awsome work BHQ #1 jeff