monster_energy06 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Posted April 22, 2008 ok soo yesterday i notiiced shifting got harder to do on the old shee.. either on the gas or off the gas.. but its not always the case .. sometimes it shifts fine... soo what could it be?? shift shaft?? shift drum?? shitf star??/ will i need to do a complete tear down.. im hoping i dont have to cause i dont have a shop to work in......... anyhways let me know Quote
BellicoseBanshee Posted April 22, 2008 Report Posted April 22, 2008 When was the last time you inspected the shift mechanism adjust bolt (the one behind the clutch cover, lower left corner)? Quote
monster_energy06 Posted April 22, 2008 Author Report Posted April 22, 2008 When was the last time you inspected the shift mechanism adjust bolt (the one behind the clutch cover, lower left corner)? uh.. never did..all i did was put a new barnett clutch kit last year i didnt touch anything else... what does that doo ive never realy played with tranny systems befor or ajusted them Quote
monster_energy06 Posted April 22, 2008 Author Report Posted April 22, 2008 anyone??? did a search and i didn't find much Quote
BellicoseBanshee Posted April 22, 2008 Report Posted April 22, 2008 uh.. never did..all i did was put a new barnett clutch kit last year i didnt touch anything else... what does that doo ive never realy played with tranny systems befor or ajusted them It is the eliptical bolt that is used to adjust the shift star/shift shaft gaps. If you have a manual, it is at the end of chapter five. If the gaps are out of adjustment, it can cause problems with shifting. I have only done it with the clutch basket removed, I am not sure if you can access the adjustment bolt and measure the gaps with it installed... Quote
monster_energy06 Posted April 22, 2008 Author Report Posted April 22, 2008 It is the eliptical bolt that is used to adjust the shift star/shift shaft gaps. If you have a manual, it is at the end of chapter five. If the gaps are out of adjustment, it can cause problems with shifting. I have only done it with the clutch basket removed, I am not sure if you can access the adjustment bolt and measure the gaps with it installed... ok ill chek that out what else can i do to fix this problem... i just wenmt for a ride and it wasnt all that bad Quote
BellicoseBanshee Posted April 22, 2008 Report Posted April 22, 2008 Could be worn forks or shift drum, could be damaged gears, it is hard to say. These are not the best shifting engines anyway. I would look at the shift mechanism adjust bolt first. If the shift mechanism is out of adjustment, or if the bolt itself is loose, it can definately cause problems. bansheejoel had similar issues a while back, and his bolt was actually loose if I recall correctly... Quote
okbeast Posted April 22, 2008 Report Posted April 22, 2008 Could be worn forks or shift drum, could be damaged gears, it is hard to say. These are not the best shifting engines anyway. I would look at the shift mechanism adjust bolt first. If the shift mechanism is out of adjustment, or if the bolt itself is loose, it can definately cause problems. bansheejoel had similar issues a while back, and his bolt was actually loose if I recall correctly... Yeah, someone had put just a hex head bolt in place I believe, which I can't imagine how many things that screwed up and made it impossible to shift. Quote
BellicoseBanshee Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 Yes, I remember that now... Thanks. :thumbsup: Quote
monster_energy06 Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Posted April 23, 2008 Could be worn forks or shift drum, could be damaged gears, it is hard to say. These are not the best shifting engines anyway. I would look at the shift mechanism adjust bolt first. If the shift mechanism is out of adjustment, or if the bolt itself is loose, it can definately cause problems. bansheejoel had similar issues a while back, and his bolt was actually loose if I recall correctly... im hoppiong its not that tho.. haha how do i know if its ajusted right ???like ive only really played with sled engines .. this transmission stuff is comfusing me.. if i could just have my clymers book here right now its would make it a little easier Quote
BellicoseBanshee Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 im hoppiong its not that tho.. haha how do i know if its ajusted right ???like ive only really played with sled engines .. this transmission stuff is comfusing me.. if i could just have my clymers book here right now its would make it a little easier The only way to know is to pull the clutch cover, inspect the adjustment bolt for wear and security, and then inspect the gaps between the shift mechanism and the shift star. Quote
Snopczynski Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 Change the oil and use a good 2 stroke trans oil, see what happens. Change it every 8-10 hours of riding. I change mine after every weekend. Quote
rubberneck Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 When you did your clutch, what condition was the basket in? Did you replace the inner hub? What about pressure plate? if the hub or basket is grooved or the press plate warped, it can make the clutch not want to dissengage all the way Quote
monster_energy06 Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Posted April 23, 2008 The only way to know is to pull the clutch cover, inspect the adjustment bolt for wear and security, and then inspect the gaps between the shift mechanism and the shift star. i gess that my next step... Change the oil and use a good 2 stroke trans oil, see what happens. Change it every 8-10 hours of riding. I change mine after every weekend. im usind ipone 4000R for wet clutch and gear box 10w40 this is some good stuff its made for high reving street bikes When you did your clutch, what condition was the basket in? Did you replace the inner hub? What about pressure plate? if the hub or basket is grooved or the press plate warped, it can make the clutch not want to dissengage all the way last summer wen i did it, my basket was a little bit grooved up on the fingers... i just put in tha clutch pack in there with 6 heavy duty barnette spring and ajusted the free play in the clutch Quote
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