Banshee0028 Posted December 1, 2007 Report Posted December 1, 2007 I opened the clutch cover to replace the kicker springs and primary gear. Now when I try to crank it, the kicker kicks back and it dies right away! It sounds like it started then immediately dies! The kicker seems to be going in the right direction and you can only put it on one way! It works fine with the ignition off. Everything should be installed perfectly! I even checked the flywheel nut and key and they are both seated perfectly and tight. I have an adj plate at +4 but did not mess with that at all, and its still at +4. It started just fine a few days ago before I took the clutch cover off to fix the noise it was having! Any ideas? Quote
fastrthnu Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 I opened the clutch cover to replace the kicker springs and primary gear. Now when I try to crank it, the kicker kicks back and it dies right away! It sounds like it started then immediately dies! The kicker seems to be going in the right direction and you can only put it on one way! It works fine with the ignition off. Everything should be installed perfectly! I even checked the flywheel nut and key and they are both seated perfectly and tight. I have an adj plate at +4 but did not mess with that at all, and its still at +4. It started just fine a few days ago before I took the clutch cover off to fix the noise it was having! Any ideas? a warped crank, bad seals, bad timing, uneven compression are a few. I broke my case once from a warped crank from a hard kickback..... Quote
Banshee0028 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Report Posted December 2, 2007 a warped crank, bad seals, bad timing, uneven compression are a few. I broke my case once from a warped crank from a hard kickback..... Well it was running fine the day before, timing should be ok from what I can see. I will check comp in both cyl's next. Any other ideas? Quote
followme2b2 Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 I opened the clutch cover to replace the kicker springs and primary gear. Now when I try to crank it, the kicker kicks back and it dies right away! It sounds like it started then immediately dies! The kicker seems to be going in the right direction and you can only put it on one way! It works fine with the ignition off. Everything should be installed perfectly! I even checked the flywheel nut and key and they are both seated perfectly and tight. I have an adj plate at +4 but did not mess with that at all, and its still at +4. It started just fine a few days ago before I took the clutch cover off to fix the noise it was having! Any ideas? I had the same problem once with that kick back. great on the foot OUCH, I just took it back apart messed with the spring alittle and it never did it again. Quote
Banshee0028 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Report Posted December 2, 2007 I had the same problem once with that kick back. great on the foot OUCH, I just took it back apart messed with the spring alittle and it never did it again. Thing is that I can kick it over fine with the ignition off and it seems to work great! I did put a new kicker spring in there but its installed just how it should be from what I can tell? Quote
followme2b2 Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 Thing is that I can kick it over fine with the ignition off and it seems to work great! I did put a new kicker spring in there but its installed just how it should be from what I can tell? Same thing here, check the spring again. With ignition on it would kick back because the motor is trying to start. The gear cant be disengaging right Quote
Snopczynski Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 This is simple. If it worked ok then you replaced some stuff, then you did not reassemble the replaced components properly. Quote
Screaming Yellow Zonker Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 it sounds like the gear not retracting correctly. I'd check to make sure the spring is on right. if not you could cause damage to the gears and not to mention your foot,knee or even you hip. Quote
fastrthnu Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 it sounds like the gear not retracting correctly.I'd check to make sure the spring is on right. if not you could cause damage to the gears and not to mention your foot,knee or even you hip. I didnt mention that becuase ya said it was installed properly. But the the kicker gear can grab if the spring n all isnt right too, for sure. That is BAD. m`kay Quote
Banshee0028 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Report Posted December 2, 2007 Well I got it to start! I think the kicker spring may have not seated all the way back? Plus I am starting it without oil since I am making sure it works before putting it all back together. Its still making the sound it was before which I think is the clutch basket bushing that needs replacement. The basket is new but when I try to manually turn the clutch basket the gears have play between them and the primary gear, just a little but enough to notice and make noise. Quote
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