2twin350s Posted June 13, 2006 Report Posted June 13, 2006 ok this weekend i was riding my 96 shee.all of the sudden it is slower than a blaster.i pull over and try to shut off the quad and it would not shut off.i stalled it and would never refire.i had no spark.so i check some things and found my cdi box took a crap.i had spare with me.i ride the rest of the weekend with no problems and load it on the truck and go home.now i get home and i try to start it and all it does is backfire,almost to the piont that the kicker brakes my foot when it backfires.if i could get it started it would not run more than 200 rpms and was backfiring wwhile i forced it to run.after 2 hours of screwing around with it,i drop in a spare ricky stator i had and bam.she fires right up and runs perfect.what the hell.how can i puke 2 major electrical componenets in 4 days.i keep my stuff dry,my stator cover was sealed water tight.i keep my bikes really nice.is it possible i have a short in my wiring harness?that cuased these parts to fail?is it possible the stator was going bad first and took out the cdi first and then puked the stator? anyone seen this happen before?i am down to my last spare parts and i dont want to fry anything else.my tors system has been completely removed for 5 years,all my electrical stuff was stock to begin with and my key switch has been removed. i dont run a race killswitch and the only electrical stuff not stock is a set of sik-lite l.e.d.s i installed a month ago.could these have cuased the failures?what is funyy is all my stator checks with a meter are in specs,but it would not run with the old stator.man any ideas would help here.i dont want to fry any more electrical stuff.i thought i knew just about all there is to see on a banshee.i had 5 of these things for years. so ineed some good tech info on this.i have already checked all the obvious stuff.the only thing i have not done is removed my wiring harness and unwrapped the tape and inspect every square inch of wires.come on guys what do you think is happeneing? Quote
BenBB Posted June 13, 2006 Report Posted June 13, 2006 Sometimes shit just happens...is there any physical evidence on the stator as to why it failed? When mine did I found a broken solder joint for the windings, just a function of time/vibration/marginal solder...when the CDI on my '96 went out, it just up and died; and I avoid water like the plague so I'm not real sure what caused it. I replaced the CDI with a Dyna and it ran perfect for years, same with the stator (didn't happen at the same time), replaced it with a Ricky Stator and no probs since. The stock stuff is decent but not bulletproof, the factory guys might cut some corners that the aftermarket doesn't, or the inspection dude was on his break when the stator or CDI was rolling down the assembly line, who knows. The stock electrical system is pretty straightforward, I'd think if there was a short you'd have some symptoms and it would either run like shit, or worse, intermittantly run like shit... Quote
2twin350s Posted June 13, 2006 Author Report Posted June 13, 2006 Sometimes shit just happens...is there any physical evidence on the stator as to why it failed? When mine did I found a broken solder joint for the windings, just a function of time/vibration/marginal solder...when the CDI on my '96 went out, it just up and died; and I avoid water like the plague so I'm not real sure what caused it. I replaced the CDI with a Dyna and it ran perfect for years, same with the stator (didn't happen at the same time), replaced it with a Ricky Stator and no probs since. The stock stuff is decent but not bulletproof, the factory guys might cut some corners that the aftermarket doesn't, or the inspection dude was on his break when the stator or CDI was rolling down the assembly line, who knows. The stock electrical system is pretty straightforward, I'd think if there was a short you'd have some symptoms and it would either run like shit, or worse, intermittantly run like shit... yeah there was no symptoms.no cutting out or nothing it just friggin acted up once and died with the cdi box. at one time my flywheel came loose(dumbass attack lol) and there was a small crack in the stator glue and a knick on the pick-up coil.but i put it back together and ran it for a year and a half.may be that was it.i still think i am gonna pull the harnees and inspect it. stator and cdi box man that is like 300 bucks worth of stuff even on ebay.over 600 brand new.i dont want to fry them any more.i hear with the ricky stator,there is a 3rd plug for a second voltage regulator.you have to run a second regulator on that white wire to keep from blowing your lights correct? and i can run my stock flywheel with the ricky stator right? what wattage bulbs can i run in my stock head lights with the ricky stator? Quote
jankab Posted June 13, 2006 Report Posted June 13, 2006 yeah there was no symptoms.no cutting out or nothing it just friggin acted up once and died with the cdi box. at one time my flywheel came loose(dumbass attack lol) and there was a small crack in the stator glue and a knick on the pick-up coil.but i put it back together and ran it for a year and a half.may be that was it.i still think i am gonna pull the harnees and inspect it. stator and cdi box man that is like 300 bucks worth of stuff even on ebay.over 600 brand new.i dont want to fry them any more.i hear with the ricky stator,there is a 3rd plug for a second voltage regulator.you have to run a second regulator on that white wire to keep from blowing your lights correct? and i can run my stock flywheel with the ricky stator right? what wattage bulbs can i run in my stock head lights with the ricky stator? You should check the harness, also you might want to pop off your flywheel and shake it if it rattles the magnets could be damaged and could contribute to your problem. Quote
BenBB Posted June 15, 2006 Report Posted June 15, 2006 i hear with the ricky stator,there is a 3rd plug for a second voltage regulator.you have to run a second regulator on that white wire to keep from blowing your lights correct? and i can run my stock flywheel with the ricky stator right? what wattage bulbs can i run in my stock head lights with the ricky stator? The extra wire is only for the high-output stators, the stock replacement stator will have the same wires ya got now. Yes you need to have a regulator for the extra circuit if you run the high-output stator, without it the lights will pop when you hit higher rpm. Stock flywheel works on all of the stators. Stock output will only light up a 30W or 35W bulb; you can put higher wattage bulbs in the stock lights but with the stock output stator they will be dim, with a high-output stator you'll need to wire in the extra circuit to the factory lights... Quote
fastbanshee8 Posted June 15, 2006 Report Posted June 15, 2006 You might want to consider replacing you coil. They are only about $20, and it might give you some piece of mind. Sometimes, when one electrical component goes bad, it can foul up something else in the system. Quote
2twin350s Posted June 17, 2006 Author Report Posted June 17, 2006 well i took off the whole friggin electrical system.went thru everything.i could not see any thing wrong.it is now going back together.i think i will swap out the coil.my shee has never given me a problem and i cant stand it when it does.i am going to run the ricky stator high output.i hooked up another regulator and the lights are friggin awesome now.gotta get one for the wifes shee next.thanks for the tips guys. Quote
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