Meat Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 (edited) What do the YFZ spindles do to the Banshee's front geometry? Sure they fit, but those are two completely different suspension arcs? Has anyone set this up and checked the arc of travel to make sure there is no binding, excessive bump steer, or caster/camber changes? 424600[/snapback] Thats sum good questions and id like to hear the details and such.... do you know how to check the ol' "arc of travel"... neither do I . Here's what I'd suggest, id ride the bastard every chance I get and if the front brakes make it steer funny, or if somthing binds or grinds then I guess the arc of travel is askew If everything rides and steers problem free and nothing binds or causes you to get ejected off the quad, then alls good. I dunno what im talking about here comes the clowns, right monkeybo ? Edited October 15, 2005 by Meat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 I grafted a Honda twin piston rear caliper on my banchee I'll try to get a picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyBoy Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 here comes the clowns, right monkeybo ? 426150[/snapback] No, you already were here. To check the suspension action out is a little difficult. The easiest thing to check will be bump steer. Bump steer is the amount of steering change throughout the arc of suspension. (God I don't wanna get into this again) Put you quad up on a stand and take the front wheel off. Make note of the extended shock length. Compress the dhock fully, and make a note of that length. You may be able to get these specs from the manufacturer if you have aftermarket shocks. Remove the shocks and place the a arm in the spot where it would be if the shock was fully extended. Straighten the hub out so that it is pointed straight ahead. Use something like a tie down to hold the bars where they are. Measure the angle from the hub to a set point such as a balljoint that moves with the spindle. Raise the suspension until you are in the spot where the shock will be fully compressed. Measure the same angle again. If you only have a couple of degrees change, you are good. If you have anything more than a couple of degrees, then the suspension is not working togother. You will feel it riding. It can be dangerous. Some setups are so bad you can see the steering move as you go through the suspension. My guess is that you will have noticible bump steer as these front suspensions are way different. This is the least dangerous of suspension problems, some of the more difficult measurements could cause you to lose a balljoint during riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksun Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Just incase anyone is interested, YFZ450 twin piston front calipers fit on the Banshee/Warrior spindles. I will post some pics later today when I get home! I have not had a chance to try endo's yet but I will try and get some pics!!! I have a buddy with a Gas Gas 300 and I have always been jealous of his Brembo's up front! The Brembo calipers are beautiful if anyone has had a chance to check them out!!! After upgrading to front 450 shocks I thought why not the calipers too? I was under the impression I would have to put the 450 spindles on my a-arms which I proved will work but the ball joints might not last too long . After I got my calipers off ebay I figured it might be a Winter project but I was curious to see how close the calipers were to mounting on the Banshee spindles and to my surprise they fit right on there! Cheap brake upgrade! 419377[/snapback] Hi there, Have you some pics? I was thinking in upgrading my banshee's brakes, and my idea was put the yamaha 450 brakes... If you can, please send me some Pics: pcvpinheiro@gmail.com Best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guttedEF Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 I'm actually just getting around to putting on my 450 calipers. (had them almost 2 months now) I was just test fitting them, but from what I could tell, I may have to cut or trim the inside brake shield, does this sound correct? I'm pretty sure on this, but I didn't wanna start hacking before I was sure on it. If anyone has some pictures that'd be awesome. And by the way, according to a local PRO racer, the Honda TRX450R master cylinder is the "ultimate" upgrade to your brakes as well, which I am doing. I will let you guys know how it all turns out, I should have it back to the track this next weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guttedEF Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 No answers from anyone? I though for sure someone would have posted again on this by now. sj820, no pics yet? I'm hopefully gonna be finishing up on my bike tonight or tomorrow so I'm hoping for an answer. Thanks in advance guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelbanshee2 Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 I would just remove the brake shield. Most people seem to do that anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 I would just remove the brake shield. Most people seem to do that anyway 504099[/snapback] i second that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipebomb Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 this is starting to sound like a nice upgrade. now if I could only find that article agian that I saw some time ago about mounting YFZ a-arms on a Shee. the guy cut the rear mounts in half and moved one part like 3/4 of an inch (can't remember if the front went forward or the back half went back farther) and used a longer bolt and a spacer tube to mount the lowers and flip-floped the top arms(left on right and vice-versa). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 i dont remember the member's name, but check for it in the images section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guttedEF Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 I would just remove the brake shield. Most people seem to do that anyway 504099[/snapback] So is there no real chance of something happening without these on there? I was thinking about it but hesitant to just toss it. The guy I ride with said he wouldn't get rid of it. All I do is MX. What about the one between the wheel and hub? Do I need that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 i dont have any on mine, but i ide it in the sand only. being on an MX track, i owuld think that not too many stick are going to get caught in your wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guttedEF Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 HA..yeh I guess you're right. I was thinking like heavy dirt and mud, but if you guys have never had a problem I'm sure I'll be fine. That'll save me some headache for sure to not cut those bastards. Thanx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guttedEF Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Okay guys.. Calipers are on, along with new EBC brake pads, ASR steel braided brake lines, and a new TRX450R master cylinder and lever. All I can say is WOW. seriously. My first use of them was at the MX track and they work awesome. Gotta be careful not to do a stoppie. I recommend this upgrade to anyone since the stock Banshee brakes suck ass. Just thought I would let you guys know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimbAnyHill Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Here's the link to apply the 450 shocks. http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=47969 How about some pix about applying these 450 Calipers? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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