lian Posted December 18, 2003 Report Posted December 18, 2003 how come i never see banshees in those races is it becouse theres lots of trails Quote
wheeleymaster99 Posted December 18, 2003 Report Posted December 18, 2003 i see a few 2-3 a race but i jut think the 4-strokes are better at those tight trails Quote
Meat Posted December 18, 2003 Report Posted December 18, 2003 acutally the 2 stroke 250r's still dominate GNCC. A 250r based quad has won the GNCC championship every year since 1986. Ballance won it this year on an LRD built 250r. Lian, when you think of the "banshee" atv what comes to mind ?? THE POWERBAND !! That awsome arm ripping 2 stroke powerband. Well this hard hitting powerband is not so great for tight woods racing and all the mud holes found in the XC races. Lets face it, the Banshee can be made to handle tight trails and MX tracks similar to the 250r, but why would you build a 250r geometry Banshee when you can just buy and race a 250r, or one of the new 4 strokes that have 250r based geometry. The Banshee's that do race XC are setup for low end power and 250r geometery. Its just alot simpler to buy a 250r than it is to buy a Banshee and set it up like a 250r. Freind of mine that races GNCC with a Banshee uses a 2:1 Motofast pipe, big single carb and NO port work, shorty swingarm and stock width aftermarket A-arms. Ballance races with a 300 powervalve motor, chris Borich uses a 270 powervalve motor, both engines are from LRD. I be racing XC this summer using an old RZ350 engine with powervalves so hopefully that will give me a good edge on the competition. Im allready setup with the shorty swingarm\honda geometery. I wish I had a 250r but I have too much money wrapped up in my Banshee and besides, I really know my Banshee inside and out so im gonna stick with it. Now my son will racing his Blaster and when he outgrows the Blaster class, and if he still wants to race, he'll be getting a 250r to race, not a Banshee. Dont get me wrong here, the Banshee is a great quad, but in all honesty the 250r's are the race quads to have. That was until the YFZ450 arrived, things have changed now. Watch for Ballance, Borich and Smiley to be riding the new 4 strokes new season. Quote
NAXbansheeman11 Posted December 18, 2003 Report Posted December 18, 2003 Yea meat I know what you mean about having to much money rapped up in yor shee! I was going to set my banshee upfor xc but right now I`m looking at a 440ex setup for xc. If I don`t end up trading then i will set my banshee up for xc but I want to try to find a more practical (sp) xc race quad. Hey meat if you wouldn`t mind going into the the forsale section and looking at my mods and see what i need to change! If i do not trade my shee i will be getting from Quicksand a set of +1+1 a-arms and a -1 swing arm and a larger tank Quote
lian Posted December 18, 2003 Author Report Posted December 18, 2003 thanks for that reply very good info Quote
Meat Posted December 18, 2003 Report Posted December 18, 2003 iv actually seen quite alot of Banshee racing in the smaller XC events, the GNCC series is the biggest XC races, so these guys are dead serious about racing, and thats why there's less Banshee racing GNCC. Nax guys will get +1 or +2 width A-arms and then use rims that offset, or should I say "inset" to keep the width of the quad narrow. I *think* most XC guys are around 46 or 47 inches wide up front. Big gastank is a must, handgaurds are almost a necessity too, sealed up water tight airbox is cool, beadlock or reinforced rims are a must, a good mod for a XC Banshee would be an aftermarket large capacity radiator. Iv been to a handfull of XC races and one GNCC race and I really want to try it. I think id do OK, cause its basically like racing your buddies out on the trails. Quote
NAXbansheeman11 Posted December 18, 2003 Report Posted December 18, 2003 Yea I hear ya like I said if I don`t trade my shee I will be keeping my banshee . Now what is this water tight air box i have holes cut in mine and i know it will have to go. and if I were to get the =1=1 a-arms wuld that be ok and what about the -1 swing arm? Quote
lian Posted December 18, 2003 Author Report Posted December 18, 2003 how much do the wider arms take out of your wallet Quote
lian Posted December 18, 2003 Author Report Posted December 18, 2003 do alot of these racers build the quad from the ground up Quote
. Posted December 18, 2003 Report Posted December 18, 2003 The serious ones rebuild them from the ground up after every race, and replace everything that needs to be replaced. Quote
frocashmoney24 Posted December 18, 2003 Report Posted December 18, 2003 yea these races will make you quad take quite a beating, and youll be finding yourself reparing stuff frequently, your gonna wanan reenforce your frame, and check it for cracks after every race to Quote
NAXbansheeman11 Posted December 19, 2003 Report Posted December 19, 2003 So tell me something do u think I should trade my shee for the 440ex that is xc ready for get the a-arms swing arm and larger tank for my shee? Quote
frocashmoney24 Posted December 19, 2003 Report Posted December 19, 2003 ima banshe lover but it'll save you alot of time if you go wtih the thumper Quote
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