idler gear and hitting neutral between third and fourth

[VictorK]

I was riding and doing drag races two days ago and I noticed my bike was hitting neutral between third and fourth a bit. Now today I took my side cover off to put. A hinson basket in there and noticed the clip for the idler gear was sitting in the bottom of the side cover shredded. Do you guys think that that idler gear being free cause. The bike to hit neutral between third and fourth on occasion under a heavy load? The clutch basket but was also loose.

[AKheathen]

nope. if you don't see anything loose involving the shifter/star, then it's just happening in the tranny/drum.

[VictorK]

One more question Ill ask here instead of start a new thread. When the entire clutch assembly is tight should the basket have some play while all other clutch parts are completely tight(not cushion play)?

[AKheathen]

One more question Ill ask here instead of start a new thread. When the entire clutch assembly is tight should the basket have some play while all other clutch parts are completely tight(not cushion play)?

what you are feeling is basket shaft bushing play if it's rocking, possibly missing a thrust waher if it slides in/out, and it's possible to have some rotational play if the plates are all lined up square with each-other

[VictorK]

I have a washer between the basket and hub but I'm wondering if a washer should be behind the basket. When you get a neglected bike like I did you run in to missing stuff and when you get the bike like that it makes it harder to know how stuff goes seeing as someone changed stuff before you saw the part ordersl.

[AKheathen]

to be honest, i can't remember off the top of my head. 10mg vicodin kickin in, lol. but if there is between 1/8-1/16" in/out thrust play, i'd say that's why, and if that's the case, it might cause the basket to hit the idler gear, and load against the crank seal, or case. i'll check into it or someone can chime in.

[Larry's Shee]

Clymers manual has a good blow-up of the clutch parts. Also any of the online parts places . I know what you're saying , my son's 87 was no jewel , rode hard ,put away wet !!

[VictorK]

I have the feeling the thrust washer behind the basket isn't there. I've had to replace every single bearing and seal on this thing but its almost where it should be so its worth it.

[AKheathen]

I have the feeling the thrust washer behind the basket isn't there. I've had to replace every single bearing and seal on this thing but its almost where it should be so its worth it.

yes, definately worth it. unless you build that thing up huge and need to upgrade, you'll likely forget all that you did to it long before ever needing to pop it open again. at least it's not more than 15min to put the thrust washer back in. there is also one on both sides of the hub, if i remember correctly. i also used loctite on the nut, not just the locking washer.

[Hilarious]

there are (2) thrust washers.

one goes on before the basket and the other goes on after the basket and before the inner hub.